#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

You don't want to be using Cure II, and definitely not Benefic II. You are just substituting one "noob trap" for another.

Putting them on the damage filler is also equivalent to just upgrading Ben 2 and Cure 2 straight up. You're going to get the proc nearly every GCD? What's the point? Under what scenario are you going to make the conscious decision to use Glare just so you can proc Freecure??

I believe the idea is a low level design aspect

If you can show people that doing damage provides positive outcomes to their healing (free cure 2’s) then it would encourage new people to do damage during downtime rather than spam cure 1

I dont think it was ever meant as a useful skill above 50

[Absurdity]

From my understanding, the reason Yoshi is resistant to the idea of giving healers a full damage dealing rotation is it would result in players neglecting their healing abilities and also lead to players being put under social pressure to deal damage more than their skill level may allow. I believe this is why the initial Japanese forum response to #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE was "If you want to DPS, play a DPS."

I also feel this is why the new DPS spells for healers are on a two minute cooldown. There seems to be this deep mindset that healers should be focused on monitoring everyone's health bars even when there is no damage coming in rather than getting caught up in the sort of things damage dealers focus their attention on. They want the damage rotation of the healing jobs to remain mostly one spell.

This always reminds me of the hilariously out of touch Scholar change in the middle of Shadowbringers, where they nerfed Energy Drain from 150 down to 100 potency with the explanation that Scholar players were focusing on DPS too much...
And then you looked at actual Scholar logs and saw that they were doing more healing than their co-healer almost every time.

[1313]

friends, the forum is not the only way to provide feedback lol you can contact them through the website or in game as well. when those systems become flooded with feedback of a particular nature , they will take notice. rather than an overlooked english forum full of trolls and people who think threads are debate sections and not feedback to the developer sections

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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[HighlanderClone]

I believe the idea is a low level design aspect

If you can show people that doing damage provides positive outcomes to their healing (free cure 2’s) then it would encourage new people to do damage during downtime rather than spam cure 1

I dont think it was ever meant as a useful skill above 50

All this does is teach new healers that you better exploit that freecure proc you got from the damage spell since it's glowy and shiny. Instead of curebots you'll just get people who do the rotation Stone -> Cure II -> Stone -> Cure II -> Stone -> Cure II.

I know people are all going to jump up and say "but that's better than spamming Cure 1!"

No, because you have still fundamentally not taught them how to become a good healer. Good healing is not about doing damage. Good healing is about learning to use your resources as efficiently as possible. Giving free Cure II is literally the exact opposite of that. You are encouraging them with a shiny dotted lines glowing around Cure II to use something that they do not need to use at all. You're incentivizing wasteful usage of a key resource - the GCD.

The blight that has been unleashed on the healing community back in Stormblood is the idea that the primary skill to acquire as a top healer is the ability to do damage. That is completely wrong. The primary skill to acquire is to intuitively understand damage patterns and have a good sense of where to use what healing tools. Your damage then naturally follows as long as you ABC. You optimize damage on healer by focusing on healing efficiency.

Of course, in EW this probably barely matters anymore since they gutted the entire role so much.

[1313]

The stats tell them genuinely nothing of value. There is no step in the process of unsubbing where you are asked why you unsub. Feedback is all they have and healers have been posting feedback for years now.

If you dont mind, how have you learned about this thread? Content creator? Friend from the FC? Post on the internet? What was the explanation given? Did they say this is only a response to xeno's media tour dungeon run?

I found it on my own by coming to the forums, as I do with all threads I comment on. I don't follow a single streamer/creator whatever you call them. I also never said that people were asked why they unsubbed, I said to do so and provide the feedback as to why. That means contact support to provide feedback. The stats regarding the relic are nothing of value, that's correct. However if 500k players in NA swapped their main from healer to anything else, they would notice that and wouldn't wonder why, because people would have provided the feedback the proper channels, in the proper manner, as i stated. PUlling a childish tantrum on the forum and going "on strike" is not the proper manner.

[1313]

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Look, someone gets it! aaaaamaaaazing

[Supersnow845]

Look, someone gets it! aaaaamaaaazing

You know that link just sends you to the forums right?

[Fawkes]

Look, someone gets it! aaaaamaaaazing

"in-game support-related feedback"


This is like how the "Website Feedback & Suggestions" Forum gets mostly suggestions about the game and not the website.

[Saraide]

I found it on my own by coming to the forums, as I do with all threads I comment on. I don't follow a single streamer/creator whatever you call them. I also never said that people were asked why they unsubbed, I said to do so and provide the feedback as to why. That means contact support to provide feedback. The stats regarding the relic are nothing of value, that's correct. However if 500k players in NA swapped their main from healer to anything else, they would notice that and wouldn't wonder why, because people would have provided the feedback the proper channels, in the proper manner, as i stated. PUlling a childish tantrum on the forum and going "on strike" is not the proper manner.

So let me try to get what you are suggesting healers do.
You think:
-healers should provide feedback in the proper channels
-stop playing healers so the devs are confronted with low healer rates and will then connect it with the feedback from the proper channels

Did I get that right?