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  1. #1
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

    WARNING! Please be warned of phishing attempts being made using the healer strike hashtag. These malicious attempts are in no way or under any circumstances being used, accepted, or implemented by any player in support of the strike. Do not click or download any suspicious links or emails.

    As has been discussed in this thread:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...thout-healers.

    What lead to the strike:
    A summary of healer's issues. - A comprehensive take from the communities healers. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-healer-issues
    Reactions to the response for more engaging content:https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-play-Ultimate

    I would like to make this the official thread for those in support of a healer strike as a collective voice to the dev team to express the dissatisfaction with the continued direction the game has gone concerning healer gameplay and what is an arrived consensus that has deemed to be a negligence towards the role, as well as the players who main it.

    I would like to note that this thread is not to attack, or in any way intended to be offensive towards any member of the dev team, Director/Producer Naoki Yoshida, Square Enix, or any of its affiliates. The purpose of the healer strike and this thread is to garner support for necessary changes and adjustments to be made in order to once again validate its place in content that requires grouping, and an equal contributed effort among all members of the group in order to facilitate clears within FFXIV.

    Please use this thread to voice your concerns, express your feelings in a constructive manner, point out issues, make suggestions, and to add your name to those who will be striking.

    The strike entails that players will not be participating in group content as any of the four available jobs to the healer role. It is understandable that there are likely active statics that are still working on EW content and healer mains in general who would like to finish out the current expansion. In fairness, I would like to give those healers who wish to participate a grace period before the strike is official.

    The strike will be officially underway when Dawntrail launches on Tuesday, July 2, 2024.

    I appreciate your time fellow adventurers. Let our voices and our hearts be heard.


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    Petition for #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

    Gemina Lunarian - Siren

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    ~~Manifesto~~
    • Self-sustain and healing abilities given to other roles.
      The choice/direction to give such abilities to roles outside of healer encroaches on the role.
    • Over simplified DPS rotation
      Every job in FFXIV has a 'filler GCD' skill that they press when there are no other requirements. No role in the game pushes this skill more than healer. Not by a long shot. Our offensive capability should still feel dynamic and rewarding. Yes, we are healers, but we are also casters.
    • Homogenization of healer jobs
      Barrier/Pure healer split is largely redundant. All healers essentially play the same with the exception of few and far between niche abilities.
    • Excessive oGCD heals.
      These are not only abundant, but exceptionally powerful. This in addition to self-sustain on other roles reduces the dynamic of healing comrades.
    • Lack of engaging content outside the most difficult duties (Savage/Ultimate). i.e. the threat level is too low.
      Healers should feel like they have a place in all forms of content. It is understandable that difficulty can't be so great as to bar progression of story-based content. However, innovative means should still be employed to make greater/full use of abilities.
    • This strike is a protest. As such, it is not intended to disrupt the game or the players who have subscribed to FFXIV.
    • The message of the strike is a collective voice of those who are not happy with the state of healing and healers in FFXIV.
    • Players supporting the strike wish to hold the development team and Square Enix accountable on their promise to provide a fulfilling and enjoyable experience for everyone.
    • The activity of a player supporting the strike has chosen to not participate in duties as the healer role. Most supporters are still going to actively participate in duties, meaning they are still contributing to the community. Just not as a healer.
    • #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE in a player's search comments expresses their support of it.
    • No player participating in the strike is telling others to do the same or to spread the hashtag. Those who do so are doing so at their own volition.


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    Join the resistance! https://discord.com/invite/jeDzvBf74X


    Edit to add additional links (06/23/2024)
    Edit to update manifesto (06/18/2024).
    Edit to add manifesto.
    Edit to add official Discord.
    Edit to add a compiled healer's issues thread.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 06-26-2024 at 02:47 AM.

  2. #2
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    I'm just here to add my name. I've long since said my piece, I'm tired of my feedback being ignored.

    I'm not touching healer for DT in any content except maybe trusts.

    Edit:

    Because a lot of people like to read my post (looking at you content creators) may as well add this:

    The healer strike is not because of a DT dungeon being completed without healers. This was happening in EW. Its because of a multitude of things:
    • Lack of changes going into DT for healers (still boring 111111 spam; a proc after a 2 minute recast timer buff does not change that)
    • Increased tank sustain that they didn't need because again, THIS HAPPENED IN EW. WHY is it being made WORSE?
    • Unwanted changes to the classes in the upcoming expac (Seraphism, AST card changes)
    • The dev team's apparent unwillingness to change or even listen to feed back

    We're striking because we're still being ignored.

    We're tired of being ignored:


    "Go Play Ultimate" thread made by healers in response to YoshiP's statement where they complained that we should be engaged in all forms of content NOT just Ultimate - 22/2/19 and where this whole thing even spawned from.

    "A summary of healer issues" made back in the SHADOWBRINGERS ERA 20/5/8.

    Mentions of tank healing being too high back in 2021.

    More talks about how boring healing is back in 2022

    Ya'll are acting like WE'RE acting this is new. Its not new. We're just sick of it.
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    Last edited by ASkellington; 06-22-2024 at 05:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I'm not touching healer for DT in any content except maybe trusts.
    I didn't think of this! If people need to play healer for their savage statics then level only in trust! If you want to do MSQ as healer, do it in duty support!

    Whatever we do, DO NOT play healer in roulette,normal duty finder, or party finder!
    We need the greater community to see, hear, and FEEL the shortage of healers in all content!
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    AST is ruined and SE is going to kill the healing role in this game unless we say something

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I'm just here to add my name. I've long since said my piece, I'm tired of my feedback being ignored.

    I'm not touching healer for DT in any content except maybe trusts.

    Edit:

    Because a lot of people like to read my post (looking at you content creators) may as well add this:

    The healer strike is not because of a DT dungeon being completed without healers. This was happening in EW. Its because of a multitude of things:
    • Lack of changes going into DT for healers (still boring 111111 spam; a proc after a 2 minute recast timer buff does not change that)
    • Increased tank sustain that they didn't need because again, THIS HAPPENED IN EW. WHY is it being made WORSE?
    • Unwanted changes to the classes in the upcoming expac (Seraphism, AST card changes)
    • The dev team's apparent unwillingness to change or even listen to feed back

    We're striking because we're still being ignored.

    We're tired of being ignored:


    "Go Play Ultimate" thread made by healers in response to YoshiP's statement where they complained that we should be engaged in all forms of content NOT just Ultimate - 22/2/19 and where this whole thing even spawned from.

    "A summary of healer issues" made back in the SHADOWBRINGERS ERA 20/5/8.

    Mentions of tank healing being too high back in 2021.

    More talks about how boring healing is back in 2022

    Ya'll are acting like WE'RE acting this is new. Its not new. We're just sick of it.
    You might want to take a look at this. For astro (and for people supporting healer strike).

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6321a515d36909
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I'm just here to add my name. I've long since said my piece, I'm tired of my feedback being ignored.

    I'm not touching healer for DT in any content except maybe trusts.

    Edit:

    Because a lot of people like to read my post (looking at you content creators) may as well add this:

    The healer strike is not because of a DT dungeon being completed without healers. This was happening in EW. Its because of a multitude of things:
    • Lack of changes going into DT for healers (still boring 111111 spam; a proc after a 2 minute recast timer buff does not change that)
    • Increased tank sustain that they didn't need because again, THIS HAPPENED IN EW. WHY is it being made WORSE?
    • Unwanted changes to the classes in the upcoming expac (Seraphism, AST card changes)
    • The dev team's apparent unwillingness to change or even listen to feed back

    We're striking because we're still being ignored.

    We're tired of being ignored:


    "Go Play Ultimate" thread made by healers in response to YoshiP's statement where they complained that we should be engaged in all forms of content NOT just Ultimate - 22/2/19 and where this whole thing even spawned from.

    "A summary of healer issues" made back in the SHADOWBRINGERS ERA 20/5/8.

    Mentions of tank healing being too high back in 2021.

    More talks about how boring healing is back in 2022

    Ya'll are acting like WE'RE acting this is new. Its not new. We're just sick of it.
    lol whingers
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    same. feedback's always been ignored. I won't be touching healers for dawntrail. it'll be my first expac since STARTING this game where i'm not maining a healer.
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    I already removed auto payment and I'm going to let my house just expire. Some poor DPS can have the plot because they are going to need something to do with that queue time. Healers have had several threads, some with hundreds of pages. There is enough feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    I already removed auto payment and I'm going to let my house just expire. Some poor DPS can have the plot because they are going to need something to do with that queue time. Healers have had several threads, some with hundreds of pages. There is enough feedback.
    what ward and plot I need a bigger house and I have 5 alts and all have maxed out healers(whm, sages) and I will not participate in this strike. TY strike, I will be (world first) in completing this expac before anyone else does.
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    I support the idea, but given their direction, and the apparent addition of aoe heals to dps classes, increased self healing for tanks... I am unsure whether there would be any meaningful changes to healing classes.. or, as they often do, will just shunt off more haling to tanks and dps.

    I have no issues in ceasing healing for duties unless its a group of my friends. but since no one in development either plays or seems to have any idea of what to do with healers, I suspect that there will be zero changes no matter what we and will vote with my wallet in 8.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I support the idea, but given their direction, and the apparent addition of aoe heals to dps classes, increased self healing for tanks... I am unsure whether there would be any meaningful changes to healing classes.. or, as they often do, will just shunt off more haling to tanks and dps.

    I have no issues in ceasing healing for duties unless its a group of my friends. but since no one in development either plays or seems to have any idea of what to do with healers, I suspect that there will be zero changes no matter what we and will vote with my wallet in 8.0.
    Your thoughts are well understood. I believe all of us know that changing the state of healing isn't in our control to do. Only Yoshi P and whoever sits behind a bigger desk than his has this power. The idea of the strike, or any strike for that matter is to utilize something that is in your control. In this case it is a refusal to participate in group content as the healer role.

    You can also show your support by adding the hashtag to your sig, adventurer plate, FC, and social media.

    Thanks!
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