#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[kingskye]

Yesterday I went Aitiascope as DPS (because obviously I ain't going healer) to farm the minion, and both the SCH and second DPS died, leaving just me and the WAR at the second boss alive. We survived the fight because of WAR.

That shouldn't be possible, but it is.

When Asura fight got released, yes, everyone in the party we new to the fight, yet our tanks were WAR and PLD. Everyone was dead at boss' 56%, yet the tanks duo'd the boss until the clear, giving no one a chance to enjoy the fight, even after the party demanded a reset. They didn't listen. Was this fun? Not at all. We all spent like 10-15 minutes dead watching tanks fight it alone. Things like these aren't fun, it's active grieving by SE. Maybe SE should ban themselves for breaking their own rules.

but i have instances where healers go into dungeons not knowing what to do as a healer and extending the 30 min dungeon to 45 mins because we have to accommodate their lack of knowing their role, this healer strike is going to end up the same way the last healer/tank strike from stormblood ended...pointless we need to use our words and tell the devs as the community what we want...because every time we ask for something (like wanting healers to be less stressful) we get these post where healers are mad their inferiority complex isnt recognized...ive been in runs where healers was legit drunk to a dungeon barely healing the tank but forcing the tank to do giant pulls and slow down the overall combat for their amusement...healers shouldn't be ridgit...no other role in the game really is...even tanks.

[Supersnow845]

but i have instances where healers go into dungeons not knowing what to do as a healer and extending the 30 min dungeon to 45 mins because we have to accommodate their lack of knowing their role, this healer strike is going to end up the same way the last healer/tank strike from stormblood ended...pointless we need to use our words and tell the devs as the community what we want...because every time we ask for something (like wanting healers to be less stressful) we get these post where healers are mad their inferiority complex isnt recognized...ive been in runs where healers was legit drunk to a dungeon barely healing the tank but forcing the tank to do giant pulls and slow down the overall combat for their amusement...healers shouldn't be ridgit...no other role in the game really is...even tanks.

Okay so why don’t we punish we the crap DPS or the crap tank with barely half a kit while the other roles do their job for them

It’s been a damn long time since I haven’t put DPS’ed at least one DPS in a dungeon and had their bad understanding of their role drag the dungeon out from 30 to 45 minutes. I guess the only solution is to consolidate their kit to 11111111 and make sure the healer does more damage than them, can’t have them dragging the dungeon run down with their inferiority complex right

[Myrany]

Years ago in WoW I was complaining to a friend about how long DPS queues were on my very small server (Steamwheedle Cartel) at the times I played because there were either no healers or tanks. He said to me "Well fix the problem. Roll one of each and play the one you like." I healed for years after that and even tanked some. There will be people who will pick it up if the lack of healers becomes a huge burden.

This game healing didn't click for me. For some reason I have a very bad time keeping up with tanks that take off and wall to wall in a way I never had in WoW. I mean literally cannot run fast enough to keep up. Makes healing in this game very stressful and not fun for me so I stopped.

I respect the people that do heal. I respect your right to try and effect a change by this strike. I just have my own doubts how effective it will be over the course of Dawntrail because I do foresee it taking till 8.0 when they are reworking all jobs anyway. 2-3 year wait for healers? A whole lot of people are going to choose to "fix the problem" if it goes on that long.

I wish you luck with it.

[Tint]

I respect the people that do heal. I respect your right to try and effect a change by this strike. I just have my own doubts how effective it will be over the course of Dawntrail because I do foresee it taking till 8.0 when they are reworking all jobs anyway. 2-3 year wait for healers? A whole lot of people are going to choose to "fix the problem" if it goes on that long.

Or they pick up the role and decide to join the strike lol. Can't be much fun for them to play healer either.

We are also waiting already for 5 years (in an 11 years old game). There is no excuse to wait till 8.0 to fix the healer role. They have to fix it now! And if that means that 7.1 has to be delayed so be it.

[Myrany]

Or they pick up the role and decide to join the strike lol. Can't be much fun for them to play healer either.

We are also waiting already for 5 years (in an 11 years old game). There is no excuse to wait till 8.0 to fix the healer role. They have to fix it now! And if that means that 7.1 has to be delayed so be it.

I suspect 7.1 is an extremely optimistic hope. A complete redesign of all healer classes is going to take time and even more time to make sure they fit with all the other classes to make sure content works. For all we know they are already planning and working on the 8.0 changes (likely they are). I don't see any kind of major change before then.

Like I said I feel bad for you guys. I even encourage you to not play something you find unfun. Call it a strike if you like.

I am a realist though casuals like me this will barely affect now that duty support and trusts are a thing. Particularly in older content that I choose to hang out in. The rare case I need a group I have one thing many lack, patience. I have done 6 hour queues on a dead server before. I can do long queues again. Others without patience will "Fix the problem" for themselves.

As I said I wish all of you well but I would not be hoping for actual change before 8.0. If they somehow pull it off before then great but I very much doubt they will.

[Myrany]

I don't think it has to be a total rework though. There's a lot you could do with the resources already available to us that could be accomplished with just shorting cooldowns, DOT durations, or making slight adjustments to how certain things can be used. Redirect that newfound damage potential out of our spammable spells to compensate, and you'd have something that would be a good compromise for Dawntrail until we reach the next expansion. I have some examples of how I'd go about it over on the first page.

That does not negate the need for extensive testing with all other classes and in all content. Still wont be fast.

[Neoyoshi]

Sooooooo, how exactly does this work?

Do people just stop healing in-game or something?

[OgruMogru]

Sooooooo, how exactly does this work?

Do people just stop healing in-game or something?

For the most part, abstaining from any Df content as a healer role. Wether that includes not levelling at all or only using trusts to level healer or experience the story seems to vary more. Most likely instead of queueing in DF steps will be made to set up healer only or non-healer runs of content - whatever people are comfortable with really outside of the initial show of support - the discord is growing quite nicely so hopefully at the very least we get group therapy and a pool of players to do PFs with as an alternative to only existing to make DF queues pop faster for everyone else. Disrupting other people's queues or dungeons by quitting or dropping out is NOT the intention, in case we haven't been clear enough!

[LuciaMirain]

Sooooooo, how exactly does this work?

Do people just stop healing in-game or something?

they won't queue as healers for roulettes, basically. Or level healers with trusts or through pvp, beasttribes and so on. Only play healer in statics but nothing in PF.