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  1. #7981
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sivante View Post
    . And I don't know if I'm willing to give this game two to three years of my life praying it will get good again, you know?
    Yeah I totally get it. Plus, it gets worse as the expansion goes on as people get better and better gear but the damage output of normal content never actually scales to match the better gear. So basically as a healer you find yourself healing less, and less, and less as the expansion goes on.

    We can’t even look forward to what they have planned in future knowing that it’s going to be out geared so quickly that healers have next to nothing to do for the majority of it. And we’re supposed to accept it because ‘insert lame Yoshi-P excuse that barely makes sense #283839’ lol
    (3)

  2. #7982
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Time to check in with the strikers now that Savage has been released.

    How are things going? Are you enjoying playing tank and/or DPS in content? Have your EX/Savage groups been clearing content easily without healers because healers are pointless, or struggled to find healers since you aren't healing anymore but your party needs healers?

    Or did you back out of the strike and pick up your healing cane/codex/astrolabe/nouliths for group content after all?

    Please don't talk about what you're seeing in PF. I want to know how things are with your personal game play. Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    (2)

  3. #7983
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    Sivante's Avatar
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    Sivante Si'akea
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    Zalera
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    Some, yes. Yes, there are groups here and there clearing without healers, but that was never the point. End of the day healer is still just... boring to play. Even with Savage, it feels less like we're necessary and more like we have the privilege of hitting a few more buttons on occasion. The game breaks down to mechanics. A good group on good mechanics means we do less. Better team = Less enjoyable/necessary for healers.

    I'm enjoying tanking and DPS'ing much more in DT. Haven't felt like I am going to fall asleep at the keyboard in a while now.
    (2)

  4. #7984
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    The groups I’ve been in have all had the healer slot fill last. Or a static I trialed for that was still looking for a healer. And in those groups, the healers have tended to be the weak link which makes sense if all the good ones have left.

    Was briefly tempted to level a healer finally but decided nah I’d rather not raid at all then be bored to death doing it.
    (13)
    Last edited by Rolder50; 08-03-2024 at 01:09 AM. Reason: spelling

  5. #7985
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Time to check in with the strikers now that Savage has been released.

    How are things going? Are you enjoying playing tank and/or DPS in content? Have your EX/Savage groups been clearing content easily without healers because healers are pointless, or struggled to find healers since you aren't healing anymore but your party needs healers?

    Or did you back out of the strike and pick up your healing cane/codex/astrolabe/nouliths for group content after all?

    Please don't talk about what you're seeing in PF. I want to know how things are with your personal game play. Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    Healer is my current least levelled role across my two accounts, my main- Andreas- I only levelled SCH through the MSQ and in the first trust visit of the dungeon, my only other healer above 90 is AST on 92 from fates. My alt (who I will not share publicly as it’s my raiding character) had only SGE and SCH levelled as I’m our statics shield healer

    Andreas doesn’t heal at all, I simply do not enjoy it, I’m still having a blast on PCT and while I’m trying to level all my jobs I’ll come up with any excuse to play PCT in any content including offering to double run roulettes with friends just so I can play more PCT. My raiding character I shield heal out of obligation but I get no fun out of it, healing is still boring as hell, both my co-healer and I are pressuring our static to rotate roles under threat of dropping the static because healing is just that boring but nobody will fill our slots as none of our static wants to play healer. If anything the savages are less healing intensive than the extremes. The mechanics are better but the healing still isn’t there

    So yes I feel fully justified in my decision to join the strike and dump this travesty of a role. The only thing I miss is the nebulous feeling of being a healer as Andreas is canonically a healer in my personal headcanon that goes beyond the scope of the game but I couldn’t miss the minute to minute gameplay of healer less if I tried
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  6. #7986
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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    DT isn't any different than EW was but with an even worse card system. Healing isn't any harder, it isn't any more fun and EX and savage will not change that until they do "as they plan" and actually change up the battle content supposively in 7.2.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #7987
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    LyraShu's Avatar
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    Lyra Shuu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Time to check in with the strikers now that Savage has been released.

    How are things going? Are you enjoying playing tank and/or DPS in content? Have your EX/Savage groups been clearing content easily without healers because healers are pointless, or struggled to find healers since you aren't healing anymore but your party needs healers?

    Or did you back out of the strike and pick up your healing cane/codex/astrolabe/nouliths for group content after all?

    Please don't talk about what you're seeing in PF. I want to know how things are with your personal game play. Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    Things have been good! I have been enjoying learning some more and getting into some, in my opinion, more engaging gameplay.

    As far as the "group content", even from the start this was never about harming other players. If requested by friends, or anyone, I heal for THEM and am happy that I got to help. I just don't run DF content with rando's because I am hoping that is a stat that SE will notice (correctly or no). SO, I have been healing for friends but only in EX trials and we have been getting pretty clean with it. I think we are getting closer to having everything choreographed enough to run without healers, but that may just be me thinking too much about this issue.

    Aside from that, I have been having some great laughs and adventures
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  8. #7988
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    LynxDubh's Avatar
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Time to check in with the strikers now that Savage has been released.

    How are things going? Are you enjoying playing tank and/or DPS in content? Have your EX/Savage groups been clearing content easily without healers because healers are pointless, or struggled to find healers since you aren't healing anymore but your party needs healers?

    Or did you back out of the strike and pick up your healing cane/codex/astrolabe/nouliths for group content after all?

    Please don't talk about what you're seeing in PF. I want to know how things are with your personal game play. Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    Been enjoying DPS and leveling a good handful of them. I did try WHM in raids and dungeons to gauge the feel of it again. But, it’s not been fun on healers the rotation is still bland, even on WHM which I consider to be the least monotonous healer since you break up the spam with lillies. I’d tolerate WHM more if we had more chances to Glare IV. Kind of abstaining from savage for this tier. Burned out a bit near the end of EW doing some last minute raiding. The upped healing requirements were nice from what I played, but that was early and not substantial enough for my liking. So I’m abstaining from healers still overall, the role is not engaging enough and it really effects my performance with the jobs.
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  9. #7989
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Time to check in with the strikers now that Savage has been released.

    How are things going? Are you enjoying playing tank and/or DPS in content? Have your EX/Savage groups been clearing content easily without healers because healers are pointless, or struggled to find healers since you aren't healing anymore but your party needs healers?

    Or did you back out of the strike and pick up your healing cane/codex/astrolabe/nouliths for group content after all?

    Please don't talk about what you're seeing in PF. I want to know how things are with your personal game play. Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?
    I was enjoying VPR until 7.05 so now I'm just leveling jobs out of boredom more than anything. My old static asked me if I was interested in joining for the raid tier but I just haven't really found a job that keeps me engaged anymore and can't really see myself even continuing to play. I'm going to level everything to 100 and try again in 8 0
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  10. #7990
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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I usually level all healers first... but this time leveled PICT and going through story as Warrior...in my underwear!
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    Last edited by ApolloGenX; 08-03-2024 at 02:34 AM.

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