#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Saraide]

I like the idea that the strike is both completely ineffectual because almost no one is going to participate but also very disruptive to the playerbase as a whole. Pick a lane please.

[Telkira]

What are you talking about? This protest is stupid, and will accomplish nothing. Remember? Your Discord is laughing hysterically, remember?

Now it is disruptive and what players will see first? If you're going to be conflictive and belligerent, at least be consistent.

I don't see how me trying to explain to you guys how you could effectively achieve the change you all claim to want to see is me being 'inconsistent'. I dare express some good faith and you swat it away, oh how dare I, the loathsome troll think I could ever be capable of being constructive... I poke flaws in your very approach and outline specifically why I think it jumps from pathetic to knee-slappingly hilarious so that way those who organized this meme could maybe learn a thing or two, and understand that feedback from a consumerbase is far more nuanced and complex than people complaining about something.

But you said it yourself, it's not going to accomplish anything.

You understand that which regions house more players is irrelevant, correct? You understand this because you are fully aware that a serious portion of their revenue is generated by the western playerbase. Of course you do. And if it seems like I am being patronizing. It's because I am.

I mean.. you're the ones showing me two different sources with wildly different numbers and metrics, and both sources were both unofficial and methodologically flawed. I'm not saying they're worthless, I'm just not willing to overlook what can be gleamed from the official sources.

Also I'm pretty sure that congestion also means activity, like if a server has a lot of travelers/wanderers/voyagers (Balmung on Crystal, for example) then that affects it. Until we have accurate sources/statistics from SE themselves, then it would be best to trust their indicators, and not some unofficial 'census' that probably doesn't even account for character name/server changes.

[Ravenblade1979]

The most amusing thing to me. This came about cause of changes coming but no one who agrees for this obvious troll has yet to play dawntrail to see if it even flows well.

Also a few healers refusing to heal won't matter. Tons more healers to take ya place.

[Aravell]

I like the idea that the strike is both completely ineffectual because almost no one is going to participate but also very disruptive to the playerbase as a whole. Pick a lane please.

Didn't you know? This strike is pointless because literally no one is going to join it and it's totally not worth doing because a few people are laughing at it on a random discord server somewhere. But this strike is also incredibly disruptive because won't you think of those poor DPS players sitting in queues? So clearly we should stop this performative nonsense and go back to filling queues like good little sheep because we shouldn't possibly inconvenience the DPS masters who want a fast queue, no sir!

/s (if anyone needs it)

[Kathryn]

The most amusing thing to me. This came about cause of changes coming but no one who agrees for this obvious troll has yet to play dawntrail to see if it even flows well.

Also a few healers refusing to heal won't matter. Tons more healers to take ya place.

Yep, started levelling my SGE got it to 80, tbh quite enjoying it aswell as I've not really been a healer main before in ffxiv, only healed in WoW.

[Turtledeluxe]

The most amusing thing to me. This came about cause of changes coming but no one who agrees for this obvious troll has yet to play dawntrail to see if it even flows well.

Also a few healers refusing to heal won't matter. Tons more healers to take ya place.

I'm not sure if you know this but the strike is a reaction to the first dungeon in Dawntrail being cleared without healers. The game is flowing exactly the same.

And you have no idea how much traction might be gained once people play it themselves and the strike gains more awareness.

Everyone should be on board, not just healers.Hopefully more will be once it becomes fully public and not merely media tour coverage.

[Telkira]

I like the idea that the strike is both completely ineffectual because almost no one is going to participate but also very disruptive to the playerbase as a whole. Pick a lane please.

You're acting like these two things are mutually exclusive.

People won't participate because they don't want to be the ones being disruptive.

It'll make others hate them and probably even get them banned if they matchmake and ditch an active duty too many times, and maybe then having the hashtag on their search info could open them up to being reported for participating in group disruption.

People will see the hashtag and scoff at it because of comedic optics of 'striking' in a video game, but also because of the sheer impracticality of organizing a whole unionized movement on a Japanese MMO with different demographics, and if/when people actually try they're just disrupting the game as a whole and someone else will step in and do their job for them.

If people just don't play healer during the strike, then someone will pick it up and play healer.
That's part of why I chose to main SMN, because ARC can alternate between SMN and SCH without having to level up a whole separate class.

If people queue up in DF or look for PF and then dip to make a point, well that's their account they're risking.

And raid statics probably won't be affected by this either because they probably all know each other well enough and still want to play the game they're paying $14/mo to play.

[OgruMogru]

You're acting like these two things are mutually exclusive.

People won't participate because they don't want to be the ones being disruptive.

It'll make others hate them and probably even get them banned if they matchmake and ditch an active duty too many times, and maybe then having the hashtag on their search info could open them up to being reported for participating in group disruption.

People will see the hashtag and scoff at it because of comedic optics of 'striking' in a video game, but also because of the sheer impracticality of organizing a whole unionized movement on a Japanese MMO with different demographics, and if/when people actually try they're just disrupting the game as a whole and someone else will step in and do their job for them.

If people just don't play healer during the strike, then someone will pick it up and play healer.
That's part of why I chose to main SMN, because ARC can alternate between SMN and SCH without having to level up a whole separate class.

If people queue up in DF or look for PF and then dip to make a point, well that's their account they're risking.

And raid statics probably won't be affected by this either because they probably all know each other well enough and still want to play the game they're paying $14/mo to play.

No one is advocating ditching queues/instances. Simply not engaging with DF as healer at all.

[Jojoya]

You can just read through and see how many people call us names and also call us toxic because we're burdening the DPS players with longer queues, all because we choose to not play a role in an MMORPG.

That's because you're working to actively organize a strike. A strike is a deliberate denial of services/products to those who rely on those services/products in an attempt to get an employer to make concessions to those striking.

In other words, you're going to deliberately negatively impact their game experience as your bargaining chip to try to force SE into giving you something you want that but that does not benefit them.

Did you really expect them to react positively?

That's why I said earlier that a strike is the wrong way to do this. You'll be getting a lot more hostility from the general player base than sympathy if common knowledge of the strike spreads in game and enough players stop queueing as healers to mess with queue times.

It would have been better to approach it as "I just don't enjoy healing anymore so I'm not going to play a healer in Dawntrail". That is relatable. That is something that anyone can get behind because in the end we're all here to have fun playing the game and it makes sense to stop doing things that aren't fun to you.

There's one other problem in deciding to approach this as a strike. Strikes have an end and things go back to normal. Approaching it as a strike is a commitment to returning to healer once SE acknowledges that they've heard you and are considering your feedback.

Healing isn't going to do a 180 this expansion unless SE already has it planned, in which case your strike comes off as spiteful because you were going to get what you want anyway.

When it doesn't change, are you going to be able to get yourself to go back to queueing as a healer despite your extreme dislike for what healing has become?

The intent of #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE is not to induce suffering. I really wish people would stop misconstruing the intent behind the protest as something vitriolic and vindictive. You have to keep in mind that many of us will be entering the queues as either DPS or tank and will deal with whatever consequences that may or may not arise as a result of the effort.

It won't matter what you say your intent is. The only thing other players are going to care about is the impact it has considering what you want to get out of the strike will not benefit them.

You can tell them that you'll be joining them in queues as tank or DPS but that doesn't mean they'll believe you.

Didn't you guys know? My discord is LAUGHING, SCOFFING, CRYING at the very idea of a strike!!! Stop it at once!! Maybe you don't know this since you're not terminally online like us, but strikes on JP games don't work!!!

Like, think about it from the context of WoW. That game hasn't EVER experienced a downtrend based on player discontent!

No one in WoW decided to organize a strike.

They just quit the game on their own instead.

I agree that something needs to be done about the state of the healer role in this game.

The strike is not the way to do it. You are not employees nor is SE your employer. SE is still getting your money, they're fine. It's your fellow players that are being inconvenienced as you use them as your primary bargaining chip.

[Telkira]

No one is advocating ditching queues/instances. Simply not engaging with DF as healer at all.

People will try it. Just watch. Sitting around and just not playing healer is even more impractical than duty dipping. At least with that, you're actually doing something (not that I advocate for that, though)

Even without that, simply having the hashtag on your search info will make you stand out.

And yes, we are still laughing at this whole thing. If you think this is limited to just me and my friend group, or the other servers I'm in with several hundred other people in them who play regularly and also think it's stupid, then you're seriously wasting your time or you're just acting as troll bait.