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  1. #7401
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    No, I specifically pointed out that there are multiple layers of higher-level content for those who are seeking more of a challenge (Savage, Extreme, etc.). It's the "base" game involving "normal" content that needs to be accessible to the entire playerbase. Now, if you believe that higher-level content is still under-tuned, that's it's own argument to make.

    I'm genuinely confused where you even got "the entire game" from when you quoted one of my posts that was itself a direct response to someone focusing on "normal" dungeons. Or were you just putting words in my mouth that you knew I didn't say in an attempt to get a word in?
    okay, my apologies, just trying to get a better handle on why you are so vehemently opposed to any changes. so you are saying, that the game, aside from optional upper end content (everything aside from "normal"), must revolve around the absolute lowest skill level. "normal" which in most other things would define an "average" of something, in FFXIV, cant be tuned to even average, it must be simplified back to the stone age so people can coast to level cap knowing little, with no skill to speak of, in the name of 'accessibility'.
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  2. #7402
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    BunnyQueen's Avatar
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    okay, my apologies, just trying to get a better handle on why you are so vehemently opposed to any changes. so you are saying, that the game, aside from optional upper end content (everything aside from "normal"), must revolve around the absolute lowest skill level. "normal" which in most other things would define an "average" of something, in FFXIV, cant be tuned to even average, it must be simplified back to the stone age so people can coast to level cap knowing little, with no skill to speak of, in the name of 'accessibility'.
    What they want isn't accessibility, what they are asking for is for one role to be unfun and fit for chimpanzees and apes rather than humans. I play this game with 1 arm (other is useless due to nerve damage) and healing is boring as crap. There is 0 for healers to do. They are afraid that tanks will lose their control on everything instead of sharing responsibility with the other 2 roles.
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    Last edited by BunnyQueen; 07-22-2024 at 04:45 AM.
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  3. #7403
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    Xuled's Avatar
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    Celica Yascaret
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Healers already crying about having to heal vs Valigarmanda and Zoraal Ja. They won’t ever be happy. Too much pressing buttons? Cry. Too little pressing buttons? Cry.
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  4. #7404
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    sharknado's Avatar
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    Sharknado Shortcake
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    Alpha
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    Healers already crying about having to heal vs Valigarmanda and Zoraal Ja. They won’t ever be happy. Too much pressing buttons? Cry. Too little pressing buttons? Cry.
    I doubt healing throughput was ever the problem. Dawntrail is like "There is actually some use in that third row of healing buttons" while IMHO we should have 2 rows instead of 3 and then get some fun factor into healing jobs.
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  5. #7405
    Player Venarius's Avatar
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    Celeste Valeria
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    Healers already crying about having to heal vs Valigarmanda and Zoraal Ja. They won’t ever be happy. Too much pressing buttons? Cry. Too little pressing buttons? Cry.
    We were already at 150+ casts of Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis in those fights at the opening weekend of early access. Randoms in party finder, level 89 gear with random dungeon accessories.

    If healer mains were crying then surely not because of "the healing".
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  6. #7406
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Connor Whelan
    World
    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Everyone got geared up and used to the slightly more involved mechanics than previously so now every enemy is back to hitting you so softly you’d be forgiven for thinking they were trying to tickle you.

    Is it 8.0 yet? Maybe healing will be fun in another three years…

    *inb4 new 8.0 job is another tank healer hybrid like Warrior that can solo heal most content*
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  7. #7407
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    Healers already crying about having to heal vs Valigarmanda and Zoraal Ja. They won’t ever be happy. Too much pressing buttons? Cry. Too little pressing buttons? Cry.
    It's as if everything must be a hivemind...

    W i l d
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  8. #7408
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    It's as if everything must be a hivemind...

    W i l d
    IDK where they seen people complaining about the damage. I only seen people praising it, especially healers.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  9. #7409
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    It's as if everything must be a hivemind...

    W i l d
    - Hivemind
    - B E E boss

    Coincidence? Think again.

    The answer to the healer strikes was right in front of us the whole time. More bees!
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  10. #7410
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    Healers already crying about having to heal vs Valigarmanda and Zoraal Ja. They won’t ever be happy. Too much pressing buttons? Cry. Too little pressing buttons? Cry.
    I found the healing in Valigarmanda ok, but the healing in that fight is usually overblown- there's some stuff to use your buttons on, but it's still not that hard to heal through it. Either way, 72% of my casts were still Glare III/Glare IV (149/207). On the pf. With random people. And deaths. I dunno man... I feel like maybe I could be pressing more than a single button 72% of my 8 minutes and 20 seconds kill.
    At any rate, the playerbase isn't a monolith. Someone who's upset at healing aoe in Valigarmanda maybe shouldn't heal to begin with. If some people are ok Glare-botting, that's great for them! I just want something else to press in the fight.
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