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  1. #6891
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    Dusty Two
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    The complaint of only spamming a single button has less to do with actual button count and more to do with the lack of interactivity. Reduce the DoT duration to 15s and that solves part of the issue. Have Glare sometimes proc Enhanced Holy and that also solves part of the issue without adding more buttons. Have Dia proc a cooldown reduction on Assize and that also solves part of the issue. Do all 3 of those and you have a decent enough kit without even touching on Glare IV and PoM. It's less about sheer number of buttons and more how they interact with each other; more buttons can give more interactions overall, but you could also just give a 50-button long combo sequence and it'd be just as dull as Glare spam but with 50 hotbar slots instead of 1.

    You could add Miasma back to SCH with a 30s timer and I still wouldn't consider that enough for it to be in a state I'd enjoy. Add back Bane and it at least makes dungeons a little more bearable than AoW spam, but still not ideal. If you had Fester on a cooldown that also has cooldown reduction with every broil cast, now you have more to pay attention to and it furthers that old identity of being a DoT based attacker. Even if both Biolysis and Miasma(lysis) were still 30s, Fester with some Broil interaction and Bane would make me want to play it again.
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    Last edited by TheDustyOne; 07-13-2024 at 01:12 PM. Reason: DoTs have durations, not cooldowns
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  2. #6892
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    That is not true, stop spewing nonsense. The strike is still going.
    yeah and thats why tank in need is more prelevant than healer in need for roullettes ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    How's playing with our cast offs working for you? Judging by the amount of players complaining about the skill of their healers, seems like you're struggling more than we are.
    the average user in any role in DF has always been dogwater, that hasnt changed at all
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  3. #6893
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    yeah and thats why tank in need is more prelevant than healer in need for roullettes ya?



    the average user in any role in DF has always been dogwater, that hasnt changed at all
    Do I need to link the “AIN isn’t actually reflective of role imbalance” post again
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #6894
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    TheDustyOne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Do I need to link the “AIN isn’t actually reflective of role imbalance” post again
    Well it hasn't been talked about for 9 pages, we'll need another bidaily update.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  5. #6895
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    Kozmakis's Avatar
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    Pencho Gipsa
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    How's that healer strike workin out for you guys? Did Yoshi reach out to your leader and negotiate a new contract or better terms in general? There doesn't seem to be any shortage of healers. Surely you must've resolved this issue by now.
    Thank you for asking, it is going great so far, I started leveling up my Samurai and it is so much fun - it's not all great, the 15-17min queue time isn't fun.. But nothing beats seeing so many healers idling half of the time (never DPSing) and casting Cure from time to time - which is good for me, I can pew pew for a little bit longer Waiting to see if they combine Trust with DF and have Alphinaud heal hundreds of dungeons every day, so queues can drop and I can have more frequent fun
    Quote Originally Posted by george357 View Post
    theirs no longer a strike just a dead horse of a necrobumped topic
    Thank you for bumping!
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    Last edited by Kozmakis; 07-13-2024 at 03:24 PM.

  6. #6896
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Do I need to link the “AIN isn’t actually reflective of role imbalance” post again
    You can also look at PF and see that most groups are waiting for healers. At least, that’s the case on Aether.
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  7. #6897
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Yo healin friggin sucks dude
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  8. #6898
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    Cure Starlight
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    Raiden
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    From "Expert" Dungeons that need almost zero healer attention to Ex Trails the jump in difficulty feels higher than ever. It baffles me that there is yet to be a reasonable gradient.
    Coming from EW I expect this difficulty level is already the plateau for savages and ultimates.

    Back to "Expert" Dungeons: The responsibility for healers is at an atrocious low. If your healer dies at 50% boss hp they'll have to watch the painfully slow progress on the kill. A reason why I am thinking of just leaving the duty whenever that happens.
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  9. #6899
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You can also look at PF and see that most groups are waiting for healers. At least, that’s the case on Aether.
    It's the same in EU datacenters.
    I don't know if it's due to the strike or just another symptom of how poor healer gameplay is, but people saying tanks are the most scarce of the roles, at least in high-end content, are on copium.
    I was farming ex2 last night and my friend asked me if there was a GNB slot- nop, you either Astro or we're gonna be sitting in here for an hour.
    Second most uncommon one seems to be phys ranged, but far behind healers (and more easily replaceable, too).
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  10. #6900
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Phys ranged is the next role behind healer that just feels like it’s there for the sake of the baseline full party comp and not because it actually brings anything to the table so it doesn’t surprise me it’s the next least common role

    The phys ranged get taxed for uptime nobody except BLM and PCT are actually fighting for. BRD specifically is one of the most complex and rigid jobs in the game and all it has to show for it is being a worse DNC because feeding gear to a specific dance partner is worth more than BRD’s uniform buffs and MCH is getting taxed for its role while being a selfish DPS

    both healers and phys ranged suffer from near redundancy of their role in a conventional party
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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