#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[kirinoodles_]

AST main here who started at ShB, unfortunately i never knew how healers were before, but I strongly share the feeling of not being needed in content and having the few butons i can press being taken away in DT! even though i won't be able to not play healer in DT due to static raids, i will do my best to support the movement!! also to whoever is supporting this, don't let anyone discourage you. no matter what people tell you, we are valid for feeling this way. it's indeed true we could just unsub and stop playing the game. but i personally love the game and i want it to improve. I love AST and the other healers. i'm sadened by the fact i'm not having as much fun as i was before on my favorite job in my favorite game. and this is valid. our voices deserve to be heard.

#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Zolvolt]

Hmmmm - your answer makes me doubt you did much healing in the old days. Healer gameplay then was about more than just casting cure and medica. It was the interplay between (1) support actions - virus/eye for an eye etc - (2) actual damage to respond to in dungeons, trials, and raids and (3) healer dps that was so important. We had three different functions in ARR/HW. That’s what I loved about it. Two of those have been taken from us now and there is little left to enjoy.

And I can assure you. I never left all the healing to the white mage :P

Also, bring back Cleric Stance :P :P

Edit: I forgot to mention that encounter design was much more oriented towards giving healers things to do too. We had lots of chances to help squeeze out clutch wins from potential wipes, rather than groups wiping because one person messed up. And there was just much more incidental damage going out that had to be triaged and attended to.

lol what. Eye for an eye was a terrible ability that relied on RNG to proc. On single target it would very often never proc during it's entire duration. We have single target and raid-wide OGCD mitigations currently that function nearly identical to virus. "but virus goes ON the boss instead of on the raid" that just literally makes virus worse than what we have now. Cleric stance was annoying, especially with it's short cd. take the nostolgia glasses off :P

Healer gameplay was almost explicitly casting cure regen media, and praying you can get an aero II cast off before having to move and getting everyone to yell at you if you ever used fluid aura for dps. Scholar was even worse off because shields weren't necessary because medica 2 was going to top people up whether the shields were there or not. (coils with holding which most people couldn't even get to twintania let alone past it.)

I healed arr and you can probably find videos of my twintania kill somewhere. The high points of ARR healing was getting to put on multiple dots on the boss and having no OGCD heals. It's sad how similiar the game is now and then in terms of healing. We have more to heal and more OGCD heals to perfect our "never GCD heal" gameplay, but the engagement in healing is in the boss encounters just like it was in ARR. Healers have never given us engaging gameplay.


my point in all of that is to say that healing has gotten better over the years. Playing "never gcd heal" still feels better than "sorry you died because I mistimed my heal due to wanting to cast stone over doing nothing" But it hasn't gotten better enough. they just play healer design too safely. I hope they fix that, but it's not like they've ever given us a reason to think healing will change. It's one of those "well if I wanted to go play wow healing for example I'd go play wow." We can ask for better healing but it's not like it's a surprise when they say "well we've always done our healing this way and are going to continue to do so"

[PapaFranku]

People keep throwing the lump sum of 550k active players around, but how many of that 550k even plays healers at all? I'd wager that most of that number only play DPS jobs, some may even be one-tricks and they'll never touch a healer job.

Realistically, healer has never been a very popular role. Out of 550k, I'd say that healer mains might only make up less than 1/3, 150k max probably. 169 out of a maximum of 150k is quite a nice number. And that's not even taking into account the people who elect to quit playing healer in DT who also don't have a forum account and don't know this is happening, they're participating too.

I was going to attempt to respond in my other post, but the 3000 character limit said no. So here, that 550k number isn't even accurate to the amount of endgame players on NA, we do have a number, and that sits at ~637k, and it grows higher each day more than likely, how many of those people are healers? Who knows, could be flex players who play all 3, or players who play DPS + healer, or tank + healer, or DPS + tank, I think the 550k is just average monthly users rather peak CCUs that probably hit over a million at least. Regardless, maybe they'll actually do something about the fact that healers continuously get the most boring updates, and perhaps they'll look at every other single job and go "This is not good balance."

[DamianFatale]

Thanks for ensuring that the healer ques will be instant. I'll be enjoying the healers the way they are, because I quite like them.

[PapaFranku]

Then why are you trying to silence a movement designed around rebalancing the game in alignment with your own preferences? Are people not protesting right enough for you? Doesn't really make any sense.

If you're only in the thread to say it's all pointless, then thanks I guess? Someone made a YouTube video about it already with over 3k views.

Imo, this one of the rarest forms of criticism the forums have ever seen. It's coherent, respectful, devoid of childish outbursts. What's not to like exactly?

Okay, so please tell me where I am trying to silence the topic, instead, here we are having discourse about it. I'm calling the thread pointless, because it's in a place that maybe 0.01% of the player base will ever use, and you cite a video that has over 3k views, which is good, that means someone here had enough sense to do so, rather than just continually spouting "I'm not going to play healer for DT." like them saying anything is going to make an impact in regular joe schmoe's life in the game, who doesn't use the forums, because Discord exists. I just don't understand the idea that sitting here in a forum thread is some how the smartest play, and is going to get the most traction for the changes you're looking for

I'd like to poke in and point out that this also exists:

https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-14-...ork-1851432853

And this is before the strike. So... Its a thing that's out there.

There was already a thread way before Kotaku made their news article 2 months ago.

[Aravell]

I'm calling the thread pointless, because it's in a place that maybe 0.01% of the player base will ever use, and you cite a video that has over 3k views, which is good, that means someone here had enough sense to do so, rather than just continually spouting "I'm not going to play healer for DT." like them saying anything is going to make an impact in regular joe schmoe's life in the game, who doesn't use the forums, because Discord exists. I just don't understand the idea that sitting here in a forum thread is some how the smartest play, and is going to get the most traction for the changes you're looking for

I don't think you understand the point of this thread. We don't expect massive sweeping changes immediately, most of us are just tired of the healer role being so shafted every single expansion so we're just choosing to no longer play it. This thread is to connect with others who feel the same way and spread awareness of the issue.

You can see most of the people who are joining will say that they don't expect anything to change immediately. If this whole thing ends up impacting the queues and makes the dev team rethink, then that's great. If it doesn't, then it doesn't matter to most of us because we'll be off enjoying other roles/games. Most people have already given up on the healer role after 6 years of stagnation anyway.

We are not trying to enact massive immediate change, we are tired of how our role is being treated and choose to stop engaging in it. That is the point.

[Deceptus]

Bosses ironically hit weaker then random mobs.

I've literally tanked bosses as both a DPS and a healer.

"tank busters" barely take 20% of a tanks HP in dungeons. Aoe's tickle.

[Kacho_Nacho]

184 likes and counting!

[Benji41]

Agree with this 100%

[Bun_Vivant]

we are tired of how our role is being treated and choose to stop engaging in it. That is the point.

It's not your role.
It's CBU3's role, which they give you the opportunity to play.

You think it's a big deal that you don't want to play it? That's very egocentric of you.
I don't want to play a lot of the classes CBU3 makes available, but do you see me complaining?

As long as there's one class I like playing, I'm good.
As it happens, right now that class is SGE. Lucky me.