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  1. #6501
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Makes no attempt to link themselves to the previous topic. Immediately follows up on two different people talking about having healed with telling people striking means no healing. Gee, I really do wonder which thing that was supposed to obviously be connected to.
    Well one, the use of "they" instead of "you" likely means they're referring to someone indirectly, and not to the person just above, and two, the fact Olivias statement makes more sense in context of people griefing.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  2. #6502
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    Eira Landale
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Well one, the use of "they" instead of "you" likely means they're referring to someone indirectly, and not to the person just above, and two, the fact Olivias statement makes more sense in context of people griefing.
    No. It honestly looks more connected to me and the other guy. It talks about not healing, and not going in with random people. It says nothing about the griefing. You're getting quite obnoxious now, so I'll be ignoring you. Have a good night.
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  3. #6503
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Why think for yourself when you could just parrot your favourite content creator? Why concede that maybe the strike has a point when you could just poison the well? Why would you be civil and say "I merely disagree and find the healers fine" when you could say "I think you guys are embarrassing / hilarious / stupid / childish / casual / no-lifers" and then wonder why people think you're toxic?
    This wonderful community has a very nice group of people that go into a criticism thread and immediately call everyone there a pathetic echo chamber of negativity and then they wonder why people think they're very unpleasant.

    What an amazing community we have here on the forums.
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  4. #6504
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    This wonderful community has a very nice group of people that go into a criticism thread and immediately call everyone there a pathetic echo chamber of negativity and then they wonder why people think they're very unpleasant.

    What an amazing community we have here on the forums.
    I know, or jumping in and taking offence at someone that wasn't talking about them to begin with for that matter. Reading comprehension would help out a lot.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  5. #6505
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    No. It honestly looks more connected to me and the other guy. It talks about not healing, and not going in with random people. It says nothing about the griefing. You're getting quite obnoxious now, so I'll be ignoring you. Have a good night.
    It really doesnt look like it's connected to you imo. Still if you feel like someone is talking about you without mentioning you, you could always try to explore if they could have meant someone else instead. In this case it will lead you to a very reasonable assumption that the post was in relation to some other posts one of which is even still on the same page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  6. #6506
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    you could always try to explore if they could have meant someone else instead.
    if you've got a problem with it
    But hey, they're not even the one getting bent over my statement to find out.
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  7. #6507
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    Careful they have a discord and will mass report you to get you banned from the forums. Contrary opinions are not welcome here, which is a big part of why I won't support his movement. So far those in charge have just been down right rude and nasty to anyone who has disagreed with them. Added all of them to a forum ignore and really wish that extended to black list in the game at this point.
    I'm not a part of the Discord, but even I'm a bit skeptical of this. If such a thing had taken place, would you not now be incapable of participating in this thread? Barring that, why would you make such a claim and provide no evidence whatsoever as to its verity? I can only imagine that if anyone in the Discord had made plain their intent to mass report you or anyone else, screenshots (at the very least) would have come to light by now. Mind you, I don't doubt even remotely that what you claim to have experienced is possible, but even were your claims truthful, the actions of the minority (which are entirely out of our control) are meaningless as far as this discussion is concerned.

    Our complaints remain the same, and the (alleged) actions of the unsavory few hold no sway, save to emotionally manipulate the undecided into disregarding our concerns entirely. If you have a compelling counter-argument, provide it. Otherwise, your input here serves to mislead at worst, and distract from the actual discussion at best.
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  8. #6508
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaIggy View Post
    Careful they have a discord and will mass report you to get you banned from the forums. Contrary opinions are not welcome here, which is a big part of why I won't support his movement. So far those in charge have just been down right rude and nasty to anyone who has disagreed with them. Added all of them to a forum ignore and really wish that extended to black list in the game at this point.
    Sis, do you need a ladder for how far you're reaching? None of this has ever happened. The worst I've seen in this entire thread is people getting a little snarky.
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  9. #6509
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Sis, do you need a ladder for how far you're reaching? None of this has ever happened. The worst I've seen in this entire thread is people getting a little snarky.
    As a group grows bigger, it becomes harder and harder to account for the actions of everyone, so that's the easiest tactic to discredit the strike now.

    "Someone from your discord is doing bad things! What's that? Where's my evidence? Well, you can't prove that none of you did what I said, can you? Guilty until proven innocent!"

    That appears to be the main tactic now, along with griefers claiming the hashtag.
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  10. #6510
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    I just find it funny that the people who were supposed to take our place as healers and make the strike irrelevant end up griefing parties out of bitterness instead of enjoying healing like they said they would. Although I suppose most of them did only say how they were going to like the instant queues without any mention of liking gameplay.
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