#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kacho_Nacho]

Nah, cos if that were true, all the screaming since Kaiten was removed would have brought Kaiten back within 2 weeks. I think it's more likely they make their decisions with 'this will make it easier to balance stuff (theoretically)' and then justify those decisions after the fact with 'Player Feedback', because that way it diffuses the backlash from the devs somewhat to a nebulous cloud of 'Players' who don't actually exist, but make for a good scapegoat when actual players want someone to blame. 'Those damn casual idiots demanded Kaiten get removed and now SAM plays horribly!' But the 'casual idiots' never existed...

It's either that or the "players" are just fellow employees and their family members. Remember the sudden change to the job icon of Sages last expansion because "of complaints from players with trypophobia?" There were no complaints on either the forum, Twitter, or Reddit. It seemingly just came out of nowhere. The only explanation was it had to be someone who worked at Square Enix.

[Kozmakis]

Wait.... It's not meant to capture player attention?... then your strike is utterly pointless and will never work.

It's not how a strike work at all.... If you want the attention of a governement, CEO or, in this case, the dev, you must first draw the attention of your community. To make them know why you are doing a strike, to make them emphasize with you, so they can add their voice to yours. And the more voices you have with you, the louder you are heard... When enough people are with you, and you became a "threatening force", it's when you can really start to voice your problems and begin to discuss and negotiate

If you don't do that, you will never be heard or acknowledged, and the governement, ceo or, in this case, the dev, will never give a damn about you and your problems.

Apologies if I misused "meant to" - I used it as a synonym of "the main goal" or "the primary objective". So yes, you read it right, it is not the point to get players' attention. That does not mean it is not part of the process - and this forum topic, Discord server, multiple articles, YouTube videos and other content is the proof of that. You can do your research, if you do not believe me, it should not take long.

It is also very interesting to use political and worker strikes as a comparison. These are very different, since there are other interests at stake - in the former, usually the political opposition funds and organises it, so they can overthrow the government and rule instead; and in the latter, labor unions are the ones fighting for more power to leverage employers. Believing there are no ulterior motives in these two examples is naive; and believing there is one in this strike, besides making healers fun to play, is ignorant. I can safely say that the organisers and participants of this strike do not wish to overthrow the SE devs, so "we can take over the development" and do what we believe in; or to use the strike as a future leverage, where "if you don't do what we say, we will make sure our loyal players disrupt and sink your game".

[Connor]

Nah, cos if that were true, all the screaming since Kaiten was removed would have brought Kaiten back within 2 weeks. I think it's more likely they make their decisions with 'this will make it easier to balance stuff (theoretically)' and then justify those decisions after the fact with 'Player Feedback', because that way it diffuses the backlash from the devs somewhat to a nebulous cloud of 'Players' who don't actually exist, but make for a good scapegoat when actual players want someone to blame. 'Those damn casual idiots demanded Kaiten get removed and now SAM plays horribly!' But the 'casual idiots' never existed...

Sounds about right lol. I mean, I don’t know what threads there are in other language forums, but from what I see in the EN one it’s incredibly rare for people to actually advocate for a change that the devs then make lol. So as you say they probably just make these decisions themselves (throwing darts a board or w/e lol…) then justify it every time with ‘oh but people asked for this’. No they are not in the room with us now (lol)

[Mortex]

I don't understand this strike at all, i always played healer since HW (WHM and Scholar from ShB).... It's true i'm missing Stone Skin, and the aqua spell (the one that did damage and was slowing down), the MP management.

But, from the beginning,healer never had any real DPS choice... For a while, Scholar did have a lot of DoT, renmant of the old ARC/SMN.... but that's all

It's true we were more busy because enmity was working in another way, and tank wasn't sturdy as they are now (and skill were using TP, so less DPS).

The problem, in the end, it's not the healers kit, but how the game system evoloved whithout us.... And, be serious, it's not a useless DPS rotation that will chag,e something (and if they implement a DPS rotation to healer, you can be sure that it will only one button combo like VPR and Picto....so...)

It's the entire role that need to evolve and change, but, do you see CU3 do something like that? I mean, right now we heal more than enough to keep a full team alive easily... I think it's all they see. For them it's working, and since it's working, why "breaking it", by changing it completly?

So, i realy think your strike it's pointless, it will change nothing at all, and, anyway, people doing the "strike", are in fact a very little minority and it doesn't impact the game at all.... so....

The content we have now is if you know how to play healer not even massively a challenge. Like I casually did both ex trials as whm and by using 10 % of brain power you can map out almost the entire fights with heal cds if nothing goes wrong. Like I didn’t even tried and I got a 97 on logs as Whm for both fights. Why does the healer role need the fails of your group so you can really have enjoyment in your role, the moment you get a good tank player you effectively become also almost jobless in expert dungeon. Also take the ex 1 fight as example if you don’t get thunder after nails you never have a healer tool shortage for the rest of the fight (healer are so packed with ogcd tolls it’s hard not dying from a body check then from straight dmg in ex1.

[EponaTBHSMH]

The content we have now is if you know how to play healer not even massively a challenge. Like I casually did both ex trials as whm and by using 10 % of brain power you can map out almost the entire fights with heal cds if nothing goes wrong. Like I didn’t even tried and I got a 97 on logs as Whm for both fights. Why does the healer role need the fails of your group so you can really have enjoyment in your role, the moment you get a good tank player you effectively become also almost jobless in expert dungeon. Also take the ex 1 fight as example if you don’t get thunder after nails you never have a healer tool shortage for the rest of the fight (healer are so packed with ogcd tolls it’s hard not dying from a body check then from straight dmg in ex1.

Is this solved by bosses simply doing more damage? Genuinely curious

[Sani2341]

Well, patch notes are Out.

AST got barely enough changes to fix the most egregious issues with it atm.

SGE didn't get double DoTs back from the media Tour.

[Local_Custard]

Well, patch notes are Out.

AST got barely enough changes to fix the most egregious issues with it atm.

SGE didn't get double DoTs back from the media Tour.

Dev1: "Why isn't anyone playing Astrologian?"
AST main1: "please you need to fix this mess you caused! Please give us back our rng!"
Dev2: "must be underpowered"
AST main2: "no! AST needs to be fun again. Can you at least give us new dmg buttons that are unbound?"
Dev1: "lol go play ultimate. Anyways, here is a second charge of light speed, a buff to macrocosmos, and 5 seconds off of your astral and umbral card recasts. Have fun!"
AST main1: "..."
AST DNC main2: "You know what, I give up. I'm playing dancer from now on."

[Isala]

Dev1: "Why isn't anyone playing Astrologian?"
AST main1: "please you need to fix this mess you caused! Please give us back our rng!"
Dev2: "must be underpowered"
AST main2: "no! AST needs to be fun again. Can you at least give us new dmg buttons that are unbound?"
Dev1: "lol go play ultimate. Anyways, here is a second charge of light speed, a buff to macrocosmos, and 5 seconds off of your astral and umbral card recasts. Have fun!"
AST main1: "..."
AST DNC main2: "You know what, I give up. I'm playing dancer from now on."

I dunno about DNC. DNC is my main ranged, and the DT changes feel absolutely miserable too. Everyone else is getting cool things, and our upgrades are "Drift your Standard Step more" and "Saberer Dance". No thanks.

[Local_Custard]

I dunno about DNC. DNC is my main ranged, and the DT changes feel absolutely miserable too. Everyone else is getting cool things, and our upgrades are "Drift your Standard Step more" and "Saberer Dance". No thanks.

that's true. I wanted to choose another job but thought to go with DNC choice I've seen ex-healer mains go with. BRD and SMN would probably also be another thing for me to write there instead.

[Somnolence]

Dev1: "Why isn't anyone playing Astrologian?"
AST main1: "please you need to fix this mess you caused! Please give us back our rng!"
Dev2: "must be underpowered"
AST main2: "no! AST needs to be fun again. Can you at least give us new dmg buttons that are unbound?"
Dev1: "lol go play ultimate. Anyways, here is a second charge of light speed, a buff to macrocosmos, and 5 seconds off of your astral and umbral card recasts. Have fun!"
AST main1: "..."
AST DNC main2: "You know what, I give up. I'm playing dancer from now on."

Wow I looked at stats on the particular site, AST is only 14% of all healers doing EX1/EX2. 3x more people play WHM.