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  1. #5711
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post


    This only shows how many of the people who are against the strike havent even read the first post of it. They aren't here because they can argue the points, they are here because we dare to criticise their perfect game
    And when did I say I was against it?
    This only shows how quick people are to point fingers as soon as someone says anything that doesn't follow suit.

    Nontheless, people have several times mentioned how calling this a Strike yet this "strike" isn't meant to act like a strike.
    And since this strike is a protest, why not just call it for what it is, a protest?

    Edit:
    and how often hasn't the first page been edited?
    can't expect people who read it way back will re-read it every now and then.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 06-30-2024 at 02:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Look at all the people walking in, gloating about how nothing has changed and how this strike accomplished nothing.
    Do you feel better now? Did you really feel the need to come here and laugh at the people trying to make a change?
    Are you happy that healers will likely remain the way they are, and previously passionate players don't want to play anymore?
    What is your goal?
    But interrupting the queues isn't a change this strike is striving for.
    It would simply be a side effect of people switching from healers to other jobs.
    So who cares if the queue is "normal" or not?
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  3. #5713
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    And when did I say I was against it?
    This only shows how quick people are to point fingers as soon as someone says anything that doesn't follow suit.

    Nontheless, people have several times mentioned how calling this a Strike yet this "strike" isn't meant to act like a strike.
    And since this strike is a protest, why not just call it for what it is, a protest?
    Because it's not that serious, this isn't real life, no one's life or livelihood is on the line and the OP just came up with a hashtag that in the end was brilliant marketing that drew a ton of attention to this thread and situation. No matter what happens with other people or the game, if you stop playing healer and play some other job that's more fun, you won. Naysay or complain about it being called a "strike" if it makes you feel better but you can't stop people from simply choosing to have more fun in the game. Maybe it should have been called #FFXIVHEALERMALICIOUSCOMPLIANCE or something.
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  4. #5714
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    Quote Originally Posted by Len_ View Post
    Because it's not that serious, this isn't real life, no one's life or livelihood is on the line and the OP just came up with a hashtag that in the end was brilliant marketing that drew a ton of attention to this thread and situation. No matter what happens with other people or the game, if you stop playing healer and play some other job that's more fun, you won. Naysay or complain about it being called a "strike" if it makes you feel better but you can't stop people from simply choosing to have more fun in the game. Maybe it should have been called #FFXIVHEALERMALICIOUSCOMPLIANCE or something.
    True, and this has been brought up before, a couple of times.
    But eventhough it's not real life, only a game, the word "strike" has given people the wrong view of what this really is and what it wants to accomplish.
    So I'm simply saying that if it had been worded differently, people might've approached it differently.
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  5. #5715
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    So I'm simply saying that if it had been worded differently, people might've approached it differently.
    yeah they would have,

    pretty sure they would have ignored it lol, it's gotten so much attention because of everyone rushing to dunk on it and it's glorious
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  6. #5716
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Maybe "Protest" would've been a more fitting word.
    Maybe, but that would have been another ignored thread on healer issues.

    It was precisely the word "strike" that brought the whole thing to light. So it's one of the best possible word choices.
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    Healer? What do you even need one for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    And when did I say I was against it?
    This only shows how quick people are to point fingers as soon as someone says anything that doesn't follow suit.

    Nontheless, people have several times mentioned how calling this a Strike yet this "strike" isn't meant to act like a strike.
    And since this strike is a protest, why not just call it for what it is, a protest?

    Edit:
    and how often hasn't the first page been edited?
    can't expect people who read it way back will re-read it every now and then.
    Oh no, I wasn't pointing fingers at you, sorry if it sounded like that. It was just to put an example how the arguments that you responded to, have their answer on the first page. That's also why I used the third person too, I wasn't trying to include you in that group
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  8. #5718
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Striker proves with quote 2 he still doesn’t understand what the strike is actually about
    Supersnow proving again with this quote that he (and many of the people striking) don't understand what the strike is actually about. This is from YOUR manifesto (not you personally, but the one you "signed on to" by participating in it):

    "Players supporting the strike wish to hold the development team and Square Enix accountable on their promise to provide a fulfilling and enjoyable experience for everyone."

    This by its very nature is predicated on the idea that something fundamental in the design of the game itself needs to change. It is claiming the game in its current form is not fulfilling for everyone (we'll leave aside the utter impossibility of even accomplishing that and the immature take at its heart). That is the purpose of your "strike." It's mind-boggling that people are signing onto it without even knowing what they're signing on to (actually, that's...not surprising in today's society...).

    And, I'll say again, if you aren't trying to bring about a fundamental change to the game, then the only thing left to be a purpose for "going on strike" is to call attention to yourself. Instead of just, you know, simply choosing other roles, people have to announce it to the world and make themselves the center of attention. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt that the group supporting the strike isn't that egocentric.
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  9. #5719
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    then its not a strike its just people complaining on the internet
    Yes just like you complaining about other people complaining. Just go away if you don't care lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Yes just like you complaining about other people complaining. Just go away if you don't care lmao.
    Hey man as long as it keeps the thread bumped up
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