#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Veil_Lord]

Or healers could just, you know, play a different role. AKA the whole original point of this thread.

No it wasn't. They're entitled to their opinions, but the original point was to whine because they didn't like changes being made to the game. Changes that they're judging based solely on the end result and have zero insight into the deliberative process that went into that outcome becoming final. You can see this because their proposed solution is basically to punish all the people who have absolutely no agency over the the outcome.

When you have a game the size of FF14, with millions of people playing all over the world, you're never going to make a change that pleases everyone. That's just a fact. You could have millions of pages of paper that is nothing but people saying they want a specific change, and someone somewhere will still claim that "nobody wanted that change!" Or go on ad nausem in melodramatic fashion about how that change is ruining the game. It is a phenomenon you can see applied all over the place, not just FF14. Look at Microsoft Windows and how every time Microsoft makes some change, there's always people complaining about it. Usually by people who couldn't even code a hello world app if their life depended on it. They have zero understanding of how the sausage is made, but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're an expert. Now, if the OP or some of the others complaining have worked on a MMORPG like FF14, I'll be much more willing to listen to what they have to say, otherwise theirs is not even a the equivalent to a single grain of sand in the Sahara compared to the millions of people worldwide that Squeenix is trying to make a game for. Some people are going to love the changes, others will hate them with a burning passion, most will probably be indifferent. If people think they know what will make for the perfect MMORPG, there's nothing stopping them from developing their own and putting it out there. I suspect pretty early on anyone who tries this will come to have a much deeper respect for the FF14 dev team. Everything's easy when you're playing armchair quarterback.

Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

[SpiralMask]

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Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

I curse thee with "playing only healer from level 1-100". enjoy glare, it will be your one and only companion in your career.
REALLY enjoy those dramatic and immersive story instances where you cast glare, and glare, and glare, while the opponent cannot out-damage a single errant OGCD, so you have no threat or challenge. have some endgame content where your healing output is worthless, because any damage is solved by a single spell or skill, and any actual mistake from anyone instantly kills the party or renders it a fail-state that demands a wall, rather than any means of dragging it back.

[Bellsong]

No it wasn't. They're entitled to their opinions, but the original point was to whine because they didn't like changes being made to the game. Changes that they're judging based solely on the end result and have zero insight into the deliberative process that went into that outcome becoming final. You can see this because their proposed solution is basically to punish all the people who have absolutely no agency over the the outcome.

When you have a game the size of FF14, with millions of people playing all over the world, you're never going to make a change that pleases everyone. That's just a fact. You could have millions of pages of paper that is nothing but people saying they want a specific change, and someone somewhere will still claim that "nobody wanted that change!" Or go on ad nausem in melodramatic fashion about how that change is ruining the game. It is a phenomenon you can see applied all over the place, not just FF14. Look at Microsoft Windows and how every time Microsoft makes some change, there's always people complaining about it. Usually by people who couldn't even code a hello world app if their life depended on it. They have zero understanding of how the sausage is made, but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're an expert. Now, if the OP or some of the others complaining have worked on a MMORPG like FF14, I'll be much more willing to listen to what they have to say, otherwise theirs is not even a the equivalent to a single grain of sand in the Sahara compared to the millions of people worldwide that Squeenix is trying to make a game for. Some people are going to love the changes, others will hate them with a burning passion, most will probably be indifferent. If people think they know what will make for the perfect MMORPG, there's nothing stopping them from developing their own and putting it out there. I suspect pretty early on anyone who tries this will come to have a much deeper respect for the FF14 dev team. Everything's easy when you're playing armchair quarterback.

Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

All that just to end with "lol just unsub"? Alright lemme update the sign...

[CrimsonGunner]

No it wasn't. They're entitled to their opinions, but the original point was to whine because they didn't like changes being made to the game. Changes that they're judging based solely on the end result and have zero insight into the deliberative process that went into that outcome becoming final. You can see this because their proposed solution is basically to punish all the people who have absolutely no agency over the the outcome.

When you have a game the size of FF14, with millions of people playing all over the world, you're never going to make a change that pleases everyone. That's just a fact. You could have millions of pages of paper that is nothing but people saying they want a specific change, and someone somewhere will still claim that "nobody wanted that change!" Or go on ad nausem in melodramatic fashion about how that change is ruining the game. It is a phenomenon you can see applied all over the place, not just FF14. Look at Microsoft Windows and how every time Microsoft makes some change, there's always people complaining about it. Usually by people who couldn't even code a hello world app if their life depended on it. They have zero understanding of how the sausage is made, but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're an expert. Now, if the OP or some of the others complaining have worked on a MMORPG like FF14, I'll be much more willing to listen to what they have to say, otherwise theirs is not even a the equivalent to a single grain of sand in the Sahara compared to the millions of people worldwide that Squeenix is trying to make a game for. Some people are going to love the changes, others will hate them with a burning passion, most will probably be indifferent. If people think they know what will make for the perfect MMORPG, there's nothing stopping them from developing their own and putting it out there. I suspect pretty early on anyone who tries this will come to have a much deeper respect for the FF14 dev team. Everything's easy when you're playing armchair quarterback.

Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

bottom line: your ass hurt cause they provided feedback and others agree to it and you cant stand it.

reason for their "whine" ,simple they love the game, love the aspects of healers, love their main job they playing(or rather used to) and wish it would be better.

went over your head? well tough

[Its_Kazzy_D]

However, I'm a controller player (borderline carpel tunnel, and want to keep it from ever advancing any further) so I have a grand total of 16 hotbar buttons I can assign things to and that means having to make some difficult choices.

Sorry but I just need to correct this since I've played all four healers in savage on controller (including Astro!). With a couple settings, you can easily access 32 hotbar buttons on controller, and frankly with the amount of buttons each job in the game has it's a very good idea to do so.

[Rolder50]

I like when people go from "You are entitled to your opinions" to "You're just whining" in the same breath.

[KvotheCadera]

Man. I already hated dawn trail healers. Now i hate them even more after seeing the patch update notes. Square enix.... is something else.

[EusisLandale]

I curse thee with "playing only healer from level 1-100". enjoy glare, it will be your one and only companion in your career.

They couldn't even be bothered to make it a new animation this time either to give a brief "ooo shiny" period. Exciting stuff.

[Ramiee]

8.0 epic originality rework is gonna make the cast time on the DPS spells slightly different.

[FiletMignon]

i was curious and ran a couple of questions through google gemini to see what the response would be. Just basic questions and some could have been worded better but feel the replies show it understood what was being asked.

First question i asked was: what do you think of final fantasy 14 healer strike?

it's answer was:




Second question was: What is the best solution for job identity in final fantasy 14?

answer was:



Third and last question was: Was it a good decision to do battle mechanics update for this expansion and postpone job identity until next expansion?

answer was: