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  1. #5331
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    Teno's Avatar
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Sage Lv 100
    The new sage dot doesn't stack with the existing one, f these devs.
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  2. #5332
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    The JP Sage thread is celebrating E Dyskrasia no longer stacking so there's clearly an audience they're catering to.
    It added a small room for optimisation while not hurting the overall dps too much if it wasn't applied.
    I don't get it. =/
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  3. #5333
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    The only thing I remember about the team and healers is when they had to find a new healer for testing their dungeons, because the one they were using cleared a Extreme, so they needed a lower skill healer. And man, does it show that they balance content around a lower skilled player...
    Fixed. Their testing healer was replaced because they started learning Extreme and normal raid, not even savage.

    Here the full quote :
    "We replaced our dungeon tester for healers because they were getting too good...this person had started learning normal raids and extreme"
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    Last edited by Hellebore_Ghrian; 06-27-2024 at 11:18 PM.
    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  4. #5334
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    So what you're saying is that those of us who are switching to DPS don't have to worry about long que-times? That's totes awesome! (ᗒᗨᗕ)
    They're literally threatening you and other ex-healers with a good time.

    These anti-strikers, my sides can't take it.
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  5. #5335
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    Wait normal raids? Like normal Pandaemonium? The content that normal casuals who play the MSQ are supposed to be able to do?
    So not even the "average casual" skill level is the common denominator? They really base it on the lowest possible skill level? And when a player at this level shows they improve - which should show the devs that normal players can and will get better at the game - instead of working with that or seeing that as positive feedback, they evict that tester from their role?
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  6. #5336
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    It was ShB at the time so it was Eden but yes, you got the point.
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    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  7. #5337
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    Fixed. Their testing healer was replaced because they started learning Extreme and normal raid, not even savage.

    Here the full quote :
    "We replaced our dungeon tester for healers because they were getting too good...this person had started learning normal raids and extreme"
    I still have not fully recovered from that answer yet to this day.
    (19)
    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-27-2024 at 11:30 PM.

  8. #5338
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Thank you for actually just making their strike succeed. They get to play the fun DPS jobs while you now, in your attempt to "gotcha" them, have to play the terribly-designed and boring jobs.
    Don't have to, but again, I'm not afraid to if it means I get to play the game on my own timeline, not yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    Not our intention. It's about a concentrated effort at communicating that healers participating in the strike switch classes because they do not have fun anymore, after their feedback has been falling on deaf ears for years.

    If nothing changes, also fine, since ppl in this thread will have a good time playing other classes and good for the people who take up healers instead of them if they have a good time. Clearly it means, FF14's healer is not designed for those who abandon the role due to not enjoying it anymore.
    The whole point of a strike is to send a message. It is intended that everyone supports it or else it sends the wrong message. Remember the strikes of the early 1900's? What they don't tell you in history books is that if factory workers didn't join the strike, then they were taken out and beaten for it. Is that really your intention to get your way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    So what you're saying is that those of us who are switching to DPS don't have to worry about long que-times? That's totes awesome! (ᗒᗨᗕ)
    No, I'm not. I didn't type any of those words. Try again.

    However, the sad truth is that if enough healers quit, then someone will fill the void out of desperation. Your queue time will be quite long in the mean time. #shuddersInWoWdpsQueueTimes #45minutesIsTooLongForADungeon
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  9. #5339
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I still have not fully recovered from that answer yet to this day.
    Nobody can recover from basically being told that "The healer we use for balancing our casual content was better than a gil farm bot, so we replaced them."


    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    However, the sad truth is that if enough healers quit, then someone will fill the void out of desperation. Your queue time will be quite long in the mean time. #shuddersInWoWdpsQueueTimes #45minutesIsTooLongForADungeon
    I think every healer in the strike is fully aware of that, they just don't care.
    And if one of the dps/tank mains is switching to healer for faster queues then maybe they too will notice how awful the design of the role currently is.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 06-27-2024 at 11:41 PM.

  10. #5340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Cool! I hope you (and many others) will enjoy filling the queues for the strikers who swap to tank/dps/no longer plays healer in pug environments. Rest assured nobody wants to force you to play the worst role in the game, including us. 'Cause guess what, we don't pay your sub!

    It's a sad truth that folks needed to be this noisy to get the discussion points even perceived or listened to. Feedbacks has been streaming in for 5-8 (depending on where you draw the line) years on the healer subforum, yet only managed to get a dismissive "lmao go play ultimate" the first time folks got even a little loud about it alongside vitriols from their snarling white knight defenders. Why am I not surprised this Healerstrike also have their fair share of naysayer in their white knight glamours.

    Dismissive job dev & their white knights, name a more iconic duo. #GCBTW
    I'm not white-knighting the devs if that's what you're insinuating. I just think that everyone here hasn't quite considered all the facts and one of those being that the void left behind by the striking healers won't be so easily filled. So go enjoy your DPS jobs until it's time to queue for your first MSQ trial. I've played DPS the whole game (except for Savage raiding; but surely *this time* I won't have to switch to healer just to complete the tier in a reasonable amount of time, right? right?). The queue times are downright hurtful at times. I just hope you're all prepared to go from not enjoying the game because you don't like how a job is designed - to not enjoying the game because you literally can't play it while you wait for someone else to play that job you don't like.

    It's easy to ignore a inconvenient truth if it makes doing something easier.... but it's foolish to ignore that truth if one isn't prepared to accept the natural consequences of ignoring said truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    They're literally threatening you and other ex-healers with a good time.

    These anti-strikers, my sides can't take it.
    I'm not against the strike, I just don't see the point in it. SE hasn't listened so far, so what makes you think "We'll get 'em this time, boys! This time for sure!"?
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