#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Gemina]

I hope that you have some success with this, in the hope that support roles become interesting to play again in the future.

As an observer who doesn't have a significant personal stake in this, though, I'm not sure how you could succeed without having a clear objective. What exactly are you striking over? It's obviously not over pay conditions, because you're not employed to heal. What are you specifically trying to change?

I think that if you can't distill your vision down to a few concrete, actionable points, then people will just be left with the vague sense that you're upset about something without having any understanding of what it actually is. Nobody is going to understand your specific viewpoint from reading a hundred threads. I know that putting those points on paper can be divisive, but you have to commit to a view if you want things to change. But you have the mic now. If you could make five specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, and timely design action points about healers that the development team would then be obliged to follow for 7.x, what would they be?

This is a very powerful message. Very eloquent and well articulated. While I had anticipated the backlash, I also feel like Wild E. Coyote if he actually caught the roadrunner. If I got a DM from Yoshida and he said, "Tell me what the problem is, I'm listening." I fear what I would have to say would not address everyone's issues, including my own. Summing up nearly six years worth of feedback from the community's healers into just five of the most important points involving healer design is a very daunting task.

I also couldn't ask for suggestions as this would just result in being overwhelmed, plus I already have all that data in my head. Instead, I would have to ask the community if they can confide in me to be indiscriminate and unbiased in being the voice.

Like I said in my last response. I will put a lot of thought into this. It is late now, and I must turn in.

Thank you!

[Sebazy]

Not sure what you guys expected. For man years Yoshi.P and the dev team clearly stated multiple times healers are suppose to mostly heal. (Their words not mines)

Mostly heal? Mostly heal what exactly?

[EZGIL]

Mad enough to not heal

but

not mad enough to not give them your money

....

k

(extra points though for being the first time, in my long travels, to ever encounter a "Healer strike")

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I mean...

People do underestimate the disruptive effect this could have.

If a healer unsubs and quits, that's just a -1 to healers in queue. But if a healer chooses to play another role, that's a -1 to the healers in queue AND a +1 to tank/DPS. We're actually going to be lengthening the queues for everyone else, and every healer that chooses to abandon the role will also increase the queues further.

This also applies to any healers who refuse to populate the DF/Roulette pool and/or chooses to reserve their own slot solely for their set of (semi) premade, further starving those who needs to fill their party.

[Malthir]

As has been discussed in this thread:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...thout-healers.

I would like to make this the official thread for those in support of a healer strike as a collective voice to the dev team to express the dissatisfaction with the continued direction the game has gone concerning healer gameplay and what is an arrived consensus that has deemed to be a negligence towards the role, as well as the players who main it.

I would like to note that this thread is not to attack, or in any way intended to be offensive towards any member of the dev team, Director/Producer Naoki Yoshida, Square Enix, or any of its affiliates. The purpose of the healer strike and this thread is to garner support for necessary changes and adjustments to be made in order to once again validate its place in content that requires grouping, and an equal contributed effort among all members of the group in order to facilitate clears within FFXIV.

Please use this thread to voice your concerns, express your feelings in a constructive manner, point out issues, make suggestions, and to add your name to those who will be striking.

The strike entails that players will not be participating in group content as any of the four available jobs to the healer role. It is understandable that there are likely active statics that are still working on EW content and healer mains in general who would like to finish out the current expansion. In fairness, I would like to give those healers who wish to participate a grace period before the strike is official.

Please provide your feedback as to the conditions to end the strike and the date it should begin. I am thinking the strike will be officially underway when Dawntrail launches on Tuesday, July 2, 2024.

I appreciate your time fellow adventurers. Let our voices and our hearts be heard.
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Petition for #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Gemina Lunarian - Siren



Edit to add official Discord:
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/jeDzvBf74X

Meanwhile War players:
Wait, this game has healers.... why ?

Good for you healers but not sure how much of an impact this is actually going to have due to healers being pretty popular on alot of severs, I play on Cerb which is a high pop server, and it's almost always Tank required in the queues, occasionally one or two roulettes will be healer but it's mainly tank.

They have dropped the skill ceilings to the floor and lowered the skill floor, for all job roles. That's the problem with making healers more than green dps. They would then be the only point of failure and you will get alot of toxicity around healers if there is any failure.
The skill floor in ARR, tanks had to actually manage their aggro (yes good tanks basically did massive burst in tank stance and switched out for more damage but that was the skill ceiling not the floor.) they had tp to manage so they couldn't just spam moves blindly, this was the og skill floor and if a tank messed up aggro, party wiped. In turn there was very little self heal in game, I believe just the dragoon and paladin had a heal move and they weren't great, so healers had to keep people alive or party wipe. Dps had positionals if they didn't land them their dps was low and you party wipe on enrage.

They removed all of these things making the skill floor sub basement level, if you suddenly add back in a skill floor to healers, with the current state of combat, which requires 1/2 of a functioning braincell, aka, wall to wall and press all the glowy buttons. it will always be the healers fault, you would put way to much pressure on healers because everyone else is playing unga bunga mindlessly press buttons.

[AnotherPerson]

People do underestimate the disruptive effect this could have.

If a healer unsubs and quits, that's just a -1 to healers in queue. But if a healer chooses to play another role, that's a -1 to the healers in queue AND a +1 to tank/DPS. We're actually going to be lengthening the queues for everyone else, and every healer that chooses to abandon the role will also increase the queues further.

I'm surprised at how tame this healer protest is even considering how people already don't mind hurting themselves by manually queueing as a DPS or a tank in DF to lengthen the queues.

[Laerune]

This strike will send a message, but nothing will change. OP only got around 146 likes, that means only 146 players care enough about this issue.

SE is not going to spend time and money to please those 146 players when majority of those 146 players will keep playing and paying.

[Flay_wind]

While i think this won't accomplish much, i won't be playing as a healer in DT. So, add +1 to the dps/tank queues.

Ironically, the only part of the FFXIV where Class Trinity is respected is BLU aka the middle stepchild the limited job.
Tanks mainly focus on holding agro and staying alive (because BLU tanks are very squishy and can't self-heal constantly), plus helping healers with healing raidwides.
Healer(s) heal and support the group, usually Off-guard, Peculiar Light, Magic Hammer/Candy Cane and other utility are handled by healers/tanks, so DPS can focus on their primary job, that is doing damage.

[Aword3213]

This strike will send a message, but nothing will change. OP only got around 146 likes, that means only 146 players care enough about this issue.

SE is not going to spend time and money to please those 146 players when majority of those 146 players will keep playing and paying.

I still struggle to understand how SE gather their feedbacks and whom their design is made for?

I admit there are some good changes here and there in DT, but a lot of issues we're having for years are still not properly addressed, and those issues are universal to both causal content and hardcore content.

Not even causal players are happy about healer gameplay experience in ShB and EW. Imagine playing as a healer through MSQ with trusts. Such level of bordem can upset even the casualest of casuals.

Sometimes I think SE weighs 1 complaint post on twitter regarding healing difficulty more than years of combined feedbacks about healers.

[Raikai]

Mad enough to not heal

but

not mad enough to not give them your money

....

k

(extra points though for being the first time, in my long travels, to ever encounter a "Healer strike")

I'll speak for myself, but the job design isn't enough to unsub because there are other aspects of the game that I enjoy a lot (story, side content) as well as not really having interest in any other mmorpg atm.

Yet it's still completely valid to find a more assertive way to provide feedback, especially because they DO look at jobs with low player engagement. Imagine if it was a whole role.