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  1. #4901
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Ok Arthars
    How about no. I never stated what my stance was on, and personally I don't care what you or anyone does with the options they are presented, but there's no point in ignoring the simple fact that a lot of people view the hiding of information to be more concerning than the presence of information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If there is one thing that I would say it is...

    For people that are looking for this information, the 'concealment' or more accurately the opting-out of information is always worse than the presence of information (regardless of what that information says) as it only leaves people to speculate on why, and more oft than not this will lead to the worst conclusion absolutely possible.

    Personally, I don't care very much and generally I have better things to do with my time that worry about some unhinged individual stalking me (or even worse actually spending developmental time to write a script and then interact with an API to extract data en-masse) across several websites on the basis of an opinion.
    Who cares. I don't want to be on a third party site and if that's a problem they can shove it. I care more about my privacy then some people who think numbers on a third party leaderboard matters more than that.
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  3. #4903
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    How about no. I never stated what my stance was on, and personally I don't care what you or anyone does with the options they are presented, but there's no point in ignoring the simple fact that a lot of people view the hiding of information to be more concerning than the presence of information.
    I think most people simply did not care, as they never experienced someone creating a spreadsheet from these forums about the posters and then spreading it on reddit. But now that we know there are unhinged individuals out there who use those websites as harassment tools, opt out I will. They can speculate and think the worst of me, I really don't care. I participate in very few topics where it would matter.
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  4. #4904
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If there is one thing that I would say it is...

    For people that are looking for this information, the 'concealment' or more accurately the opting-out of information is always worse than the presence of information (regardless of what that information says) as it only leaves people to speculate on why, and more oft than not this will lead to the worst conclusion absolutely possible.

    Personally, I don't care very much and generally I have better things to do with my time that worry about some unhinged individual stalking me (or even worse actually spending developmental time to write a script and then interact with an API to extract data en-masse) across several websites on the basis of an opinion.
    This is rather funny coming from a *weaver*, perhaps it's best on not speculate or intrude upon on why people should or should not share their information/data, but concentrate more on their opinions? Just a thought.
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  5. #4905
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    This is rather funny coming from a *weaver*, perhaps it's best on not speculate or intrude upon on why people should or should not share their information/data, but concentrate more on their opinions? Just a thought.
    If someone is going to harass you or is out to harass you, then they are going to proceed to harass you regardless of what you do with your logs. Me being a 'weaver' is literally entirely irrelevant as the basis of this topic is just basic human nature.

    and I am pretty sure I made it fairly clear that it was only an observation, as I said I do not care what you do with your do or do not do with your data.
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  6. #4906
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    Reminder, that parsebrain is a terminal disease.
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    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

  7. #4907
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    um.... those who support the strike have been equally bashing those who don't agree with it. It was even insinuated that you aren't allowed an opinion on healers on BOTH sides if certain content hadn't been cleared in this VERY thread.
    I jumped pages to pages, so I may have missed out a lot.

    Feel free to use "view page" marker within the quotes to see how they interact with people

    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    LMAO HEALER STRIKE
    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    I'll just sell healer queues for 50k a spot. np!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    LOL please, This is NOT a combat focused MMO, it's Story-driven and boy I have been playing this game A LOT longer than you so yes, you are the pathetic one, I'm a day 1 1.0 player
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Yeah you guys wanna be omni makes. Dps, tank and healer all rolled into 1 package. Seems legit.
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    im laughing
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    But I'm all for you guys being on a strike. Please be on strike forever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    And getting people like me to slither out from the rocks we live under like snakes to point and laugh at you all for doing this isn't really 'success'
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    Lol I'm actually amused this is still going on. Go on "strike". You pretty expendable and we got healers everywhere.
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    ok so play harder content would be the answer to that.
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    I never imagined that FFXIV would have so many individuals with questionable behavior and morals playing. Some of you tarnish its reputation for being a friendly and nurturing environment. Shame on you for lacking basic empathy. With people like some of those who support this movement, it is doomed. This should be regarded as a scandal.

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    Y'all could have used that time spent protesting for something important like Palestine instead. Just saying.
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  8. #4908
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I do not care what you do with your do or do not do with your data.

    That's already a lot of posts for a not caring stance.
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    Last edited by Hellebore_Ghrian; 06-25-2024 at 03:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If someone is going to harass you or is out to harass you, then they are going to proceed to harass you regardless of what you do with your logs. Me being a 'weaver' is literally entirely irrelevant as the basis of this topic is just basic human nature.

    and I am pretty sure I made it fairly clear that it was only an observation, as I said I do not care what you do with your do or do not do with your data.
    Good Lord, this post makes no sense whatsoever.
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  10. #4910
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    That's already a lot of posts for a not caring stance.
    If someone quotes me then I am going to respond to them. Not rocket science.

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Good Lord, this post makes no sense whatsoever.
    Do a better job of reading it then.

    My point is that hiding logs resolves absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, as someone that is out to harass you for having an opinion is going to do so regardless of whether you do or do not hide your logs, some people will simply interpret that as shame, that's really all there is to it. I've had my logs hidden and unhidden on several occasions, and I have personally had a lot less hassle from just keeping them public than what I have with keeping them hidden, I've actually been accused of having bought my clear/mount from E8S because my logs were hidden, yet had the mount and achievement marked on my lodestone. Me being 'Weaver' was irrelevant in this case.

    To look at this example. The person extracting the data will still likely extract you as having a 0 score.

    Evidently it was my mistake for suggesting that it isn't always that great of a solution, won't it again LOL
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-25-2024 at 04:18 AM.

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