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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    Ironically Blizzard has been doing an outstanding job listening to and acting upon feedback the last two years.

    And yes, I can put 100% of the responsibility on the devs. Idk about you but I don’t design or program FFXIV.
    I don't design the game either but seem kinda immature of you to put the blame on the devs when they actually want the game to fun as well. Sure you can put 100% of the responsibility on the dev (its a free world), doesn't mean you are right thinking that you can't have fun playing a job just because you spam a skill 22 times a minute or what not.
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    Last edited by SoloD007; 06-29-2024 at 10:34 PM.

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    "Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    Ironically Blizzard has been doing an outstanding job listening to and acting upon feedback the last two years.

    And yes, I can put 100% of the responsibility on the devs. Idk about you but I don’t design or program FFXIV."

    Also if Blizzard is doing an outstanding job at their game, I'm not sure why you are here complaining about healing job/roles when WoW seems like a better option to you. Because in my opinion. Healers in hard content are always busy. They don't seem bored at all. So I'm not sure what you are doing as a healer.
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    Last edited by SoloD007; 06-29-2024 at 11:04 PM.

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    I absolutely do not regret hanging up my healer hat to be a pictomancer main. It's fun and complex and I get to juggle a lot of things without being overwhelmed!
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    Striker proves with quote 2 he still doesn’t understand what the strike is actually about

    I’m already gone from healers, they are dead and buried, I’m a PCT main now because the game doesn’t even ask the bare minimum from a competent healer

    The other roles seem to understand floors and ceilings but not the healers and that’s why I’m done with them. I shouldnt reach my jobs ceiling by figuring out cure 1 isn’t optimal
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 06-29-2024 at 11:25 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Striker proves with quote 2 he still doesn’t understand what the strike is actually about
    Supersnow proving again with this quote that he (and many of the people striking) don't understand what the strike is actually about. This is from YOUR manifesto (not you personally, but the one you "signed on to" by participating in it):

    "Players supporting the strike wish to hold the development team and Square Enix accountable on their promise to provide a fulfilling and enjoyable experience for everyone."

    This by its very nature is predicated on the idea that something fundamental in the design of the game itself needs to change. It is claiming the game in its current form is not fulfilling for everyone (we'll leave aside the utter impossibility of even accomplishing that and the immature take at its heart). That is the purpose of your "strike." It's mind-boggling that people are signing onto it without even knowing what they're signing on to (actually, that's...not surprising in today's society...).

    And, I'll say again, if you aren't trying to bring about a fundamental change to the game, then the only thing left to be a purpose for "going on strike" is to call attention to yourself. Instead of just, you know, simply choosing other roles, people have to announce it to the world and make themselves the center of attention. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt that the group supporting the strike isn't that egocentric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    "Players supporting the strike wish to hold the development team and Square Enix accountable on their promise to provide a fulfilling and enjoyable experience for everyone."
    This only means that players who are unhappy with the state of the healers want the dev to turn their attention to what they consider to be major problems with the healers design that are pushing a number of them away from the role. To what we consider to be issues, not to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    This by its very nature is predicated on the idea that something fundamental in the design of the game itself needs to change. It is claiming the game in its current form is not fulfilling for everyone (we'll leave aside the utter impossibility of even accomplishing that and the immature take at its heart). That is the purpose of your "strike."
    Which part is difficult to understand in "The purpose of the healer strike and this thread is to garner support for necessary changes and adjustments" and in "voice your concerns, express your feelings in a constructive manner, point out issues, make suggestions"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It's mind-boggling that people are signing onto it without even knowing what they're signing on to (actually, that's...not surprising in today's society...).
    Yes, of course... If you've never learned to read, maybe it's true. See, I put it again right above from Gemina's post, all you had to do was read carefully.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    And, I'll say again, if you aren't trying to bring about a fundamental change to the game, then the only thing left to be a purpose for "going on strike" is to call attention to yourself. Instead of just, you know, simply choosing other roles, people have to announce it to the world and make themselves the center of attention.
    And since the goal is to make the dev to turn their attention to the topicas all other threads and remarks in LL chats all theses years have been ignored, how would you proceed to do so ? Because that's really strange, since the whole thing was called a strike the topic of the healers issues never had as much attention as it have now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt that the group supporting the strike isn't that egocentric.
    No you're clearly not, else you wouldn't write all these ambiguous posts trying to put words in ppl mouths and being dismissive. It just shows us that you don't even take the time to read the things that are addressed to you.

    And to finish with an auto quote :

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    You can twist and bend all the words Gemina has written or written by other ppl who have already answered to you.

    At the end of the day, strikers are just switching job like anybody would do when an expansion is released.

    If you're not happy, we don't care. Deal with it.
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    Healer? What do you even need one for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    And, I'll say again, if you aren't trying to bring about a fundamental change to the game, then the only thing left to be a purpose for "going on strike" is to call attention to yourself. Instead of just, you know, simply choosing other roles, people have to announce it to the world and make themselves the center of attention. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt that the group supporting the strike isn't that egocentric.
    Non-healers: *get catered to by the devs, get emergency hotfixes for minor issues, get a role (DPS) that has never been skipped for new jobs, get abilities that make healers functionally obsolete in everyday content*

    Also non-healers: "HURR DURR UR MAEKIN IT ALL ABUT URSELF!1!!!!11!1!one!1!eleven!"

    The lack of self-awareness is...something, to say the least.
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    "Once upon a time, you were the based healer, who could carry any tank through the largest of pulls! Now you're just here because the Duty Finder said you have to be." - Lucy Pyre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    This by its very nature is predicated on the idea that something fundamental in the design of the game itself needs to change.
    That's exactly what I think. From how the story is presented to how the entire combat/gameplay loop works.
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    seems the healer strike was a bust i've had no problems finding groups since dawntrail launched
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloD007 View Post

    Also if Blizzard is doing an outstanding job at their game, I'm not sure why you are here complaining about healing job/roles when WoW seems like a better option to you. Because in my opinion. Healers in hard content are always busy. They don't seem bored at all. So I'm not sure what you are doing as a healer.
    Because I want to play final fantasy XIV. And no, healers are engaged the first time doing a given piece of content. Once you know when damage is going to happen you’re back to spamming 12111111111111. The only exception is when you’re in a group with people who are really bad at the game.

    My fun as a healer shouldn’t be restricted to day 1, progression, or when in groups with exceptionally bad players. Healers should be fun no matter what.
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