#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Evergrey]

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I don't think the main issue why people come here and share their opinions as to why this might be "useless" is because people post feedback.
It's that people are calling for a Strike since feedback hasn't been adressed.
Which honestly should never be taken as granted.

Someone mentioned earlier how Yoshi had mentioned about Healer feedbacks in 2021, and someone else managed to find what I think might be just that.
So I'm simply gonna post a quote to the post with the link.

This is as close as I could find

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/...interview_2021

This indicated that (at least) up to 2021 Yoshi has been aware of Healers and their feedback but they just didn't think that those changes were needed for their vision of the jobs role.
So they haven't ignored feedback for 5+ years, as some have brought up.
And I'm sure they have seen feedback post 2021 as well and most likely still not seen those as needed.

[PercibelTheren]

You don't want to be using Cure II, and definitely not Benefic II. You are just substituting one "noob trap" for another.

Putting them on the damage filler is also equivalent to just upgrading Ben 2 and Cure 2 straight up. You're going to get the proc nearly every GCD? What's the point? Under what scenario are you going to make the conscious decision to use Glare just so you can proc Freecure??

You have a very good point. It would only work at the very low levels and probably also teach bad habits, just different ones.

[HighlanderClone]

So let me try to get what you are suggesting healers do.
You think:
-healers should provide feedback in the proper channels
-stop playing healers so the devs are confronted with low healer rates and will then connect it with the feedback from the proper channels

Did I get that right?

You got it completely wrong.

They are suggesting that we follow him as a role model and start

PUlling a childish tantrum

Sadly none of us are as saintly as him so we're going to find it rather hard to muster up the maturity and level-headedness to follow in his footsteps.

[PercibelTheren]

So let me try to get what you are suggesting healers do.
You think:
-healers should provide feedback in the proper channels
-stop playing healers so the devs are confronted with low healer rates and will then connect it with the feedback from the proper channels

Did I get that right?

"It's not a problem."
"If it is, it isn't that bad."
"If it is that bad, it isn't a big deal, just a small minority."
"If it is a big deal, you brought this upon yourselves."

[Somnolence]

From my understanding, the reason Yoshi is resistant to the idea of giving healers a full damage dealing rotation is it would result in players neglecting their healing abilities and also lead to players being put under social pressure to deal damage more than their skill level may allow.

Just make all heals oGCD and all DPS GCD so this situation becomes impossible. Not using healing GCDs is already meta, why not design proper resource system around it? I am not sure if there is some game engine limitation that would prevent oGCD costing MP if this is needed.

[Airah_Lith]

The fact this is still going actually blows my mind and is somehow getting more and more entertaining.

I personally have nothing to say on the whole matter of how healers are. I like them as they are now and I will like them as they will be. it's a game, not a job, just have fun!

[HighlanderClone]

The fact this is still going actually blows my mind and is somehow getting more and more entertaining.

I personally have nothing to say on the whole matter of how healers are. I like them as they are now and I will like them as they will be. it's a game, not a job, just have fun!

[KageTokage]

This indicated that (at least) up to 2021 Yoshi has been aware of Healers and their feedback but they just didn't think that those changes were needed for their vision of the jobs role.
So they haven't ignored feedback for 5+ years, as some have brought up.
And I'm sure they have seen feedback post 2021 as well and most likely still not seen those as needed.

I'm assuming that era is where he said "Just play ultimates" which totally misses the point when it comes to why people dislike the current healing model.

[Kaurhz]

The fact this is still going actually blows my mind and is somehow getting more and more entertaining.

I personally have nothing to say on the whole matter of how healers are. I like them as they are now and I will like them as they will be. it's a game, not a job, just have fun!

Games are supposed to be fun. Of which there is no objective definition as what constitutes as fun.

Some people would like an instant win button to feel like they are playing the almighty. Some others would like a modicum of gameplay. Some others would like to also have a shred of opportunity to engage with their toolkit.

The funny thing about this? None of them require turning the game into a job. A 15 minute encounter is not a job, and no amount of stretching will change this fact.

[PintyMcEars]

Same few people still bumping the thread? Good job!