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  1. #4411
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao is one of those peoples. Mao is old and has Parkinson's Disease. Mao knows there will come a time when Mao will no longer be able to play game. This makes Mao sad. For now though, Mao oks because trusts and difficulty selection for MSQ lets Mao be able to still play. Mao nots want MSQ and dungeons tied to MSQ to be turned into DDR style twitch fests. On other claw, Mao nots want see higher levels of contents likes raids and Savage made easy. Is should be hard things to do for young healthy peoples whats has the skills to do thems. Mao nots mind nots being able do raids and Savage. Mao has other things like the gatherings that Mao likes. The gatherings restricted by MSQ though so if MSQ gets too hard, Mao no can even do the gatherings anymore. Mao sad.
    Oh Mao... I didn't know. I'm so sorry. May that day be many years away because you are one of the bright lights on these forums.

    No one wants the difficulty raised to the point where some people can't play. From what I can discern, the general consensus is healers just don't want so much of the game to be mindless.

    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    I am concerned about it. And I've cancelled my sub and pre-order because I have no desire to continue to give my money to a company that doesn't want to provide an engaging gameplay experience.

    I am that concerned, that I logged into the official forums for the first time to show my support.
    Thank you for your support and I'm sorry to see you go even though I understand the reason. May you find your adventure on another game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    All this madness here made me think I should Level first my White Mage and then all other Healers. :P
    That sounds like a great idea! Go ahead and level all the healers, then come back and let us know your thoughts.
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 06-21-2024 at 01:34 PM.

  2. #4412
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    Xurtan's Avatar
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    Mikh'ir Bajhiri
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabby-Chan View Post
    3) Jumping the Gun

    An entire healer's strike was started due to let me get this right, a person who cleared a Leveling Dungeon, you know... the easiest thing this game has to offer compared to other content...

    ..and yet when an Ultimate Clear came from not using Healers....where was the healers strike for that? Oh right! Its optional content and it's a minority so no strike came. Do you expect a strike to come from the actions of players in Leveling Dungeons?
    The last time I enjoyed AST was the 4.0 era. Healers have had problems for YEARS. How much of a gun should we be jumping, exactly?
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    #healerstrike

  3. #4413
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I nominate Yugi '27 UCoB clears' Momo @jenova as the healers union leader.

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/43648524/

    Man's as pure as they come.
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    Last edited by 1313; 06-21-2024 at 01:19 PM.

  4. #4414
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    Godbert Manderville
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    I honestly don't really understand why they can't give healer a full rotation instead of just two buttons, I know they have healing responsibility and in high end content it does get pretty serious but tanks have a full dps rotation and still having 8 mitigation buttons they have to make full use of in ultimate content.

    I understand button bloat is a big issue but some GCD heals could be combined together to make room for new buttons.

    I think the very few dps buttons are the main reason I rarely play healer tbh
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  5. #4415
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzumaKuma View Post
    Even though I'm not really agreeing with this strike or do I expect much outcome before 8.0 where they say they're going to re-examine job identity.

    I am impressed at how big of a conversation this has created. Some of the arguments make really well good points. Hopefully they can interpret the feedback in way we can make good middle ground that works for everyone. I don't believe in making the roles very complex purely just for hardcore content, it needs to work for casual content as much as, that bit is crucial for me at least.
    We shall see whether 8.0 will deliver Nirvana, Paradise, Heaven. We have our first test in just a week (and a day) when we can all get to experience the Expert dungeons.

    Apparently, it's "expert" for real this time. We will soon see if it's just another exaggeration in the long string of overpromises.
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  6. #4416
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyllen View Post
    I honestly don't really understand why they can't give healer a full rotation instead of just two buttons, I know they have healing responsibility and in high end content it does get pretty serious but tanks have a full dps rotation and still having 8 mitigation buttons they have to make full use of in ultimate content.

    I understand button bloat is a big issue but some GCD heals could be combined together to make room for new buttons.

    I think the very few dps buttons are the main reason I rarely play healer tbh
    Healers used to have more DPS buttons.
    But a lot of healers refused to use them since they were playing a healer, not a DPS.
    So people started complaining on healers since they were more or less just standing still during content waiting for something to heal.
    If I'm not mistaken, it was around this time the phrase "You don't pay my sub" started when healers used it as a response to those complaining.
    So I wouldn't be surprised if SE started pulling DPS buttons from Healers after this.
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  7. #4417
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    Greystone's Avatar
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    Lux Aeternum
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Nooooo don't go on strike my queues will be too fast when I queue as healer nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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  9. #4418
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    All we're asking here is for something else to do during phases where little to no healing is expected. Pressing a filler spell 12 times, then renewing the dot is boring. Furthermore, our healing kit is plenty but even the hardest of content is not able to make full use of it.

    If anything, the haters/gaslighters/elitist are the ones who turn this thread into what it is today. To them, healer mains should remain doormats, tools for their enjoyment, nothing more. Just look at the tags.. And the threads popping out to mock this thread? Heck someone even made a google docs of all the people participating in this strike and got their logs.. for what reason?
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    Last edited by rawker; 06-21-2024 at 03:19 PM.

  10. #4419
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    When this thread became nothing more then endless argument between players who want healers be healers in any content and players who want healers be DPS in any content.

    Then i think it would be better if healers gets removed in 8.0 completely.

    Sigh...... i really miss 2.0 and 3.0 days where healers main focus was healing without this boring spamming single DPS skill 90% of the time that we healers have being doing at least 5 years in row now, tanks didn't have any of these powerful self-sustain skills and normal content where lot more challenging and fun to play.

    There are ways to please/reach them both!
    By making the healer jobs different from one another regarding dps complexity/+buttons..
    But they will need raise the healing requirements too, to please the other group..
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    SCH/AST/DNC/VPR/SMN

  11. #4420
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    GartredZW's Avatar
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    Gartred Runecaster
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    SCH- make baneful impaction a regular spell, make it last 12 seconds, and (if they want to go crazy) make ED free during chain strat.
    Sounds like turning Energy Drain into Continuation. I'd be all for that. It sounds really fun to be weaving energy drains for 10 seconds.
    Not sure about the numbers off the top of my head, but that might actually give a normal rotational use for Ruin 2 as it gives you two weaving spots as opposed to Broil's 1.
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