#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Myrany]

older does not mean they are incapable. at this point SE is about one step away from catering to turnips in the field. I fall into the "older" category... and once I cannot game, I will take up a different game, because at my age, I dont want the equivalent of tapioca pudding every time I log in. I want something to KEEP my brain active... not a snooze fest.
do we start granting "accessibility" to people that are barely capable of turning on their computer or console? maybe we can have someone visit to do it for them.

once it gets to the point where every disability is catered to, then there is no more "normal" content. it is a race to see who drools the least while drinking the koolaid.

Let me refer to this post of mine and also point out that I am in my 50s and agree whole heartedly with keeping the brain active through gaming.

Strangely enough. I am a disabled player neurological disability. Like years ago in WoW when my hand spasmed and I ran off a ledge to my death as a result and someone yelled at me calling me a spaz my answer was "Well yes, yes I am." These days I play DPS. Most people can't tell I am disabled.

In the end it was my disability that made me stop playing healer. It's a strange thing with CP. The more pushed or rushed I feel the more spastic I get. I played healer in a couple of other games but when I was playing them the tank was willing to take the queue from the healer on how fast to go. Here they don't. I generally can keep up with a 2 pack pull. If I gotta run to keep up farther then that I risk spasms from the panic about not keeping up ( and thus not being able to make my hands hit the right buttons). DPS on the other hand no one gives a darn if it takes me an extra half second to get there. No one is gonna die over it.

The disability is also why I don't do harder content. the occasional ex trial is as far as I go. That is right on the bleeding edge of what I can reliably do without being a detriment to the party or in pain for days afterward.

I was going to post this to the lady talking about her disabled friend last night but had hit post cap. Honest there is a point where the disabled person has to know their own limits and make choices. I know on a bad hands night its time to go exploring or fishing or gathering. Something that is not going to ruin things for other people. Could I have continued leveling healer? yes if I had a group of kind people that didn't mind being just a little slower. As it is the OCD is going to make me finish leveling them via trusts eventually as having a class open but not leveled makes me nuts.

This I say as someone who taught special ed for 29 years in the schools. We can help disabled people figure things out but the best thing we can possibly do for them is teach them how to figure it out for themselves. We do no favors by running blockers between them and the world.

[Voidmage]

They didn't give healers reasons to heal, they just took away their dps.
I don't think you thought your thought through before commenting haha.

He was just giving his opinion, no reason to attack him.
I also agree with him. Back then it was not too rare to see healers getting attacked for no dpsing and SE probably just axed the entire tree instead of keeping the beavers away.

[Evergrey]

They didn't give healers reasons to heal, they just took away their dps.
I don't think you thought your thought through before commenting haha.

I never said anything about them giving more to heal, did I?
Maybe read before commenting.

[Gullis]

Lunar Sub..... but remember the whole argument is that a Warrior as a tank means healers are irrelavent and yet, the majority of my runs as a healer and as a dps says otherwise. But nooooooooooooooooo healers aren't needed, isn't that the point of the thread? Because a God Tier uWu tank cleared with 3 dps and no heals. I mean... Warriors don't need healers right? Yet somehow mine couldn't live once the healer ate mechanics and died.

fair, but the problem for many healers is that those situations are extremly rare, and not at all part of the average experience. People always say that most players are super casuals that don't know how to press their buttons, and sure idk, I don't have any data to prove or disprove it, but I currently can't belive it. The times that happens to me are so extremely rare, it just seems so unrealistic to me, for that to be the case.
Maybe I am just insanely lucky and have avoided them all during the 2.5 years of EW

[Myrany]

fair, but the problem for many healers is that those situations are extremly rare, and not at all part of the average experience. People always say that most players are super casuals that don't know how to press their buttons, and sure idk, I don't have any data to prove or disprove, but I currently can't belive it. The times that happens to me are so extremely rare, it just seems so unrealistic to me, for that to be the case.
Maybe I am just insanely lucky and have avoided them all during the 2.5 years of EW

In low content particularly Prae during the moogle events (before the changes with having so much other stuff to do) I used to see a whole lot of fail on the healer front as I ran it over and over for moogle tomestones. Most of the time it was one of 4 issues. 1. new healer- needs some seasoning 2. Healer doesn't really know the dungeon and gets caught out in the last fight and the big group wide damage kills people because the healer didn't top them before. 3. Healer got tunnel vision in on doing DPS and forgot to check health bars. Finally and this is one that really ticks me off. Healer announces they will be DPSing and we should keep ourselves alive (for me this one is a vote kick + report, sorry it is refusing to do the job they signed up for)

You would be surprised how much garbage happens in low level content mostly because people have no clue what they are doing. That doesn't mean nerf everything into the ground. But it does happen more often than you think.

[OliviaLugria]

Lunar Sub..... but remember the whole argument is that a Warrior as a tank means healers are irrelavent and yet, the majority of my runs as a healer and as a dps says otherwise. But nooooooooooooooooo healers aren't needed, isn't that the point of the thread? Because a God Tier uWu tank cleared with 3 dps and no heals. I mean... Warriors don't need healers right? Yet somehow mine couldn't live once the healer ate mechanics and died.

someone didn't read the first post in the thread :/

[Ayalu]

I would say i count as Casual as i dont touch Extremes or Savage stuff.
While i dont run into the problem that i dont feel needet as healer atleast not in the last few time.
I still see problems in the design and how monotone it is to do my Attack spell.
I also see all the design problems in the other classes, the removal of interlocking parts in class design, homogenisation and narrowing of design space.

I will also mention that distatisfaction with healing is also present on the Japanese Side of the Community.
One should mention that they desire a different solution for it, not more damage as they do think Healer should not damage.
But a more enticing healing and support experience.

[Kes13a]

In low content particularly Prae during the moogle events (before the changes with having so much other stuff to do) I used to see a whole lot of fail on the healer front as I ran it over and over for moogle tomestones. Most of the time it was one of 4 issues. 1. new healer- needs some seasoning 2. Healer doesn't really know the dungeon and gets caught out in the last fight and the big group wide damage kills people because the healer didn't top them before. 3. Healer got tunnel vision in on doing DPS and forgot to check health bars. Finally and this is one that really ticks me off. Healer announces they will be DPSing and we should keep ourselves alive (for me this one is a vote kick + report, sorry it is refusing to do the job they signed up for)

You would be surprised how much garbage happens in low level content mostly because people have no clue what they are doing. That doesn't mean nerf everything into the ground. But it does happen more often than you think.

I had one where the tank up and said, dont worry about the amount of damage I take, I dont repair my gear... I was like, please, I can do it, just let m..... and they were off and pulling. was a dfferent ride but managed, barely.. to keep them off the floor but they didnt really use mits either so was... different....

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

There's definitely bad healers floating around but almost none of the proposed changes matter to my co-healer (or even just healer now that I've backed off the role) spamming Prognosis.

Not E. Prognosis, Prognosis. That's a real thing I've seen people do.

[Myrany]

I had one where the tank up and said, dont worry about the amount of damage I take, I dont repair my gear... I was like, please, I can do it, just let m..... and they were off and pulling. was a dfferent ride but managed, barely.. to keep them off the floor but they didnt really use mits either so was... different....

Oh there are big fails in tanks and dps as well. I think what I was getting at was that there is much more fail happening in low stuff than many think there is. A GOOD healer can and often does save the show. A GOOD healer + a GOOD tank can make up for a whole lot of DPS shenanigans. When everyone is good its a snooze run.

Trust me I very much appreciate good healers. There have been times my hands went south unexpectedly because I forgot a mechanic was coming and they wouldn't work to let me get out of it. The healer yoinking me out of the bad was VERY appreciated and actually a nice wakeup call to me to get my head back in the game.

EDIT: I play mostly low stuff by choice. So I do see what happens there perhaps more than most. Mostly ARR+Heavensward stuff. I just hate Stormblood so much story wise I have only managed to get through it once. The character that did get through it I am taking my time going through Shadowbringers because I do not WANT to be at cap. I do not like the person I become at endgame. I tend to lose the fun of the game at endgame by pushing myself to hard into the min/max mindset even though I will never do the content that requires it.