#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Stormhold]

Yes we do. We want engaging healer gameplay.

*Useless wall of text*

That's it.

JUST DO CRITERION DUNGEON FOR ONCE. I swear to God, people complaining about pressing 1 button never healed anything harder than EX, IF they healed EX.
Pressing 1 button is needed to keep concentration and being able to react to someones fumble and to save the run.
Ever tried to do at least HW+ AR without healers? You spam rez on sprouts so much, You have no time for super complex rotation.
1 button spam is so dishonest -- All healers but Astro got 1 filler, 1 dot, 1 burst. Gameplay is: Fill as much fillers as You can while heal/move ; Keep dot ; Time burst with Your allies burst buffs. All while making sure next nuke won't kill anyone.

Also, only players Your strike is gonna hurt is Sprouts, who already a huge headache in DF. You give them harder time as healers (which they already can't handle and spam Cure 1) and everything folds. Bosses are balanced around healer damage, so if You make "COMPLEX AND ENGAGING" rotation for healers, bosses must be adjusted, but in which direction? Balancing around healers who can't damage, or around those who can? Make dungeons even more of a joke, or a slog?

[Sani2341]

And it's not just healers that were reduced to rubble for ShB, but we were already dealing with losses (not simple changes) coming in from Stormblood, from Heavensward..

Yeah... After seeing the argument 'You healers asked for this' in some of the discourse sorounding this, I did go for a little dig into the depths of the forums. Didn't find any threads asking for less DPS option. But turns out, these same complaints of 'can we please have our DPS buttons back' actually started in SB already in threads like this:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...039-Healer-DPS

[Flay_wind]

um, you do realize that someone can play this game and create their FORUM account much much later?
Here's a snip of my oldest achievement if you don't believe my main character started in 2.1


Forum membership does not get created automatically with the making of a character

Okay, a question then.
What kind of content do you do on your Sage?

[Katish]

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You assume healers here don't do criterion(?) Or harder content in general...? Same application of one dps button spam, the only wipes I typically see is failing to do a mechanic correctly or enrage. Now that content is rarely seen...unfortunate too, was looking to get my clear on the first criterion, but that is the ropes of content that lacks repeatability value (not really a healer issue).

Tdr, two-three sentences? There is varying skill level of healers in this thread, please read something before assuming a premise.

[NicoKirito]

I never tried to do savage and ultimate content because i simply fear getting banned for not doing perfect run on my first try.

Hi undead, I totally understand but I would like to share some information with you that might change your mind. I highly recommend finding a static if you are interested in learning how to raid in this game over party finder. There are several recruitment discords that you can join to find a team. They have lots of different types of team such as casual teams which has a lot of new players that are new to raiding and want to learn without the pressure of being kicked for not know what to do. There are also what they call midcore teams which is typically has players that kind of know how to play but do silly things like throwing out asylum when there is no damage or dots on the party. So you got some options, as for pf. Well I promise you that if someone kicks you cause they think you are bad at the game, they probably are worse than you think you are. You have no idea on the amount of people who think they are good but actually aren't in party finder. So don't let that stop you from joining a PF. Go in there and learn so you can enjoy the content and build your confidence up. I still think finding a static is better cause you will actually prog fights with them vs going into pf and wasting your time with the so called good players in pf. I hope this helps and hopefully see you in pf progging. Enjoy the new expansion!

[Supersnow845]

JUST DO CRITERION DUNGEON FOR ONCE. I swear to God, people complaining about pressing 1 button never healed anything harder than EX, IF they healed EX.
Pressing 1 button is needed to keep concentration and being able to react to someones fumble and to save the run.
Ever tried to do at least HW+ AR without healers? You spam rez on sprouts so much, You have no time for super complex rotation.
1 button spam is so dishonest -- All healers but Astro got 1 filler, 1 dot, 1 burst. Gameplay is: Fill as much fillers as You can while heal/move ; Keep dot ; Time burst with Your allies burst buffs. All while making sure next nuke won't kill anyone.

Also, only players Your strike is gonna hurt is Sprouts, who already a huge headache in DF. You give them harder time as healers (which they already can't handle and spam Cure 1) and everything folds. Bosses are balanced around healer damage, so if You make "COMPLEX AND ENGAGING" rotation for healers, bosses must be adjusted, but in which direction? Balancing around healers who can't damage, or around those who can? Make dungeons even more of a joke, or a slog?

I’m spending 60% of my casts in TOP spamming broil. This is a problem that goes all the way up into ultimates healers are just badly designed

And right now nothing below EX is designed around expectation of healer damage, hell dungeons are designed around no healer damage because if the healer doesn’t do damage everyone’s CD’s actually align better. The cure 1 spammers aren’t going to he hurt here

[Mimilu]

um, you do realize that someone can play this game and create their FORUM account much much later?
Here's a snip of my oldest achievement if you don't believe my main character started in 2.1


Forum membership does not get created automatically with the making of a character

Except the account WeakestZenosEnjoyer is replying to claims they started in Shadowbringers, which wasn't out until 2019. That character's forum account joined in October of 2015, 4 years before that expansion was released. (ಠ_ರೃ)

[Stormhold]

You assume healers here don't do criterion(?) Same application of one dps button spam, the only wipes I typically see is failing to do a mechanic correctly or enrage. Now that content is rarely seen...unfortunate too was looking to get my clear on the first one too.

Tdr, two-three sentences? There is varying skill level of healers in this thread, please read something before assuming a premise.

Do You do Criterion? Your achivements privated, so I assume not, because by default statement of achievement is locked and burden of proof will lie on You. Will wait for someone who did harder content to judge me.

[KitiaraIornsight]

Okay, a question then.
What kind of content do you do on your Sage?

Dungeons, trials, extreme trials, 8 man normal raids, 24 man raids, Variant, pretty much all of it. The only thing I've not done is all the extremes and savages because I am a mom and I work full time and I cannot commit to savage prog.
What difference does it matter what content I do. The fact is I play on my sage the most when I play the game and will be progging the MSQ with sage through all story content.
And now time to pull that gate keeping card out. Because I foresee you're going to try to claim I'm some how "too casual" of a player even though I've been playing the game since Beta on ps3 and the took a break and came back in 2014 and have maintained a sub with no lapse for nearly 10 years.....

[Katish]

Do You do Criterion? Your achivements privated, so I assume not, because by default statement of achievement is locked and burden of proof will lie on You. Will wait for someone who did harder content to judge me.

I will gladly do one with you right now...? I will hand it to you on a golden platter. Would help me clear as I need fresh bodies...I made it to the last boss on the first one.

- I assume I won't get a response though, that's how these things typically work out, no one is ever willing to walk the walk with me :C and I need them clears.