#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[TheDustyOne]

Raiders: haha this person didn't do savage/ultimate what the hell can they say about healing
Healers: provides logs from savage and ultimates
Raiders: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that

Them looking at just Gemina not having parses shows the community's true image. If you need parses to criticize boring healer gameplay, then the argument holds no merit. I find it very strange they only focus on Gemina, but ignore other raiders who share similar thoughts regarding healer issues.

The ironic thing is, the first comment still points out that even the uh "shit players" (their words not mine) notice how bad the role is.

Play savage/ultimate and say the role is boring: "But poor Johnny Casual can't play the dungeons if you give him extra DPS spells he can ignore if he struggles to heal!"

Play casual content and say the role is boring: "You should go play ultimate, dungeons don't matter, ignore that we still have to press Glare for 60-80% of the fight."

It's a never ending cycle that can't be won and shifts the goal posts.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

Misshapen chair once said that if all healers get reworked into something more engaging, then one healer should stay the same for the players who like that kind of gameplay. For those who enjoy healers as they are now, would this be a good compromise?

It's probably better actually than just trying to treat healers as one unit. You'd actually have statistics about what players prefer instead of trying to assume what they want by just... allowing them to choose.

Hot take though, I think it should be Sage. Not only does Sage lack an established background, being born in the ShB healer design, but Kardia/Pneuma could easily serve as the foundation for a kit focused on incidental healing ideal for those struggling to balance healing and damage and get them thinking about healer damage as important and meaningful. The unlock level of 70 would encourage trying out "harder" healers first instead of just having all newer players crammed into the square hole while 60-70 is about when kits normally start getting complicated anyway.

[Rehayem]

I vaguely recall that somewhere. Which page of this thread had other raiders who agreed with this thread sharing their parses/proof?

It's a few pages back but here's one example. I can try search for more if I have the time.

[TheDustyOne]

Hot take though, I think it should be Sage. Not only does Sage lack an established background, being born in the ShB healer design, but Kardia/Pneuma could easily serve as the foundation for a kit focused on incidental healing ideal for those struggling to balance healing and damage and get them thinking about healer damage as important and meaningful. The unlock level of 70 would encourage trying out "harder" healers first instead of just having all newer players crammed into the square hole while 60-70 is about when kits normally start getting complicated anyway.

My hot take would be to have AST be the nuke spammer, it's always had a barebones damage kit and was 1 nuke + DoT back in SB, but it made up for it with the cards. That said I still would rather they get something for its damage kit.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Skill floor is being able to do the primary job you're signing up for: healing and keeping your subject(s) alive. To do more than just that means you're already going above your skill floor. Today's ceiling is being able to spam your 1 nuke button ad nauseam (75% - 95% of time), and maybe throw in your other non-healing button if you feel like to (which we either lacking or have no need to, or combination of both), while fulfilling your primary duty to heal (less than 10%, if you're with a WAR then maybe 1-3% lmao).

Well said.

The ironic thing is, the first comment still points out that even the uh "shit players" (their words not mine) notice how bad the role is.

Play savage/ultimate and say the role is boring: "But poor Johnny Casual can't play the dungeons if you give him extra DPS spells he can ignore if he struggles to heal!"

Play casual content and say the role is boring: "You should go play ultimate, dungeons don't matter, ignore that we still have to press Glare for 60-80% of the fight."

It's a never ending cycle that can't be won and shifts the goal posts.

Yep. Many players don't want the status quo changed because it would mean their jobs would be reined in. So, they do put out these nonsensical "gotcha" posts which have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[EinherjarLucian]

Well the low healer numbers is why they stripped healers in the first place. Maybe if this makes more people realize that healers aren't that fun to play in most content, then we'll actually get somewhere.
That does seem to be what the devs listen to.

might be time to actually use Trusts.

But... healers are fun to play. It's by far my favorite role in an MMO.

[Kacho_Nacho]

But... healers are fun to play. It's by far my favorite role in an MMO.

Out of curiosity, why do you find healers fun to play? Why is it your favorite role? Your voice deserves to be heard in this discussion too.

[Graveyardprincess]

So i have an idea, to make this more effective every healer main go to limsa around the aethercurrent and uldah thing etc and use self destruction, spread the power of the puddle if we can cover all the main citys with piles of corpses they will have to listen.

[aiqa]

So i have an idea, to make this more effective every healer main go to limsa around the aethercurrent and uldah thing etc and use self destruction, spread the power of the puddle if we can cover all the main citys with piles of corpses they will have to listen.

Trying to turn a peaceful strike into a terrorist organization?

[Graveyardprincess]

Trying to turn a peaceful strike into a terrorist organization?

I mean its still peacefull that way, and its funny and it would be more effect than words will ever do lol plus entire towns filled with corpses would get them to actrually listen to it instend of be like well it is what it is lol