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  1. #381
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    im laughing
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  2. #382
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Healers kinda brought it on themselves, SE listened to your feedback and put more weight onto oGCD heals meaning you weren't hardcasting them as much.
    Uhhh.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Healers also complained about the lack of time they're able to deal damage, so they gave others better defensive kits.
    Please cite some sources or I'm going to assume this is either an outright lie or delusional head cannon?

    Meanwhile, here's me complaining that we were already spending FAR too much time spamming GCD DAMAGE almost 3 years ago.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5654573

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    Now healers are complaining that those defensive kits given to others have invalidated their role and that SE doesn't listen to them?

    Cmon guys something's got to give.
    Give me something to do that's not mashing one button to infinity until the point that the RGB in my glare key has failed and I honestly wouldn't care.

    HW/SB AST was fun even if I didn't have much to heal. ARR/HW SCH was fun even if I didn't have much to heal. Why? Because both offered layers and complexity. I had things to do that weren't mashing the same button 10 times in a row.
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  3. #383
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    I support this thread. If you support it too, make sure to thumbs up the OP, since that helps get the message across.
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  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLuz View Post
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    Finally, I'd like to understand what is the highest level of content completed as a healer by any of the individuals calling for the strike.
    Washed up old ex world prog raider who never really adapted well to how the meta shifted through HW. I mention this because IMO this is the absolute worst situation to be in as a healer. If you take some pride in your performances and understand your kit and cooldowns to the point where you see the folly in wasting GCDs insta topping/overhealing people and panicking needlessly, that's where you start realising just how barren healer gameplay outside of Savage prog and up is. And of course, as a washed up old retired raider, I spend most of my time in casual content. And it bores me to tears.

    Quote Originally Posted by KLuz View Post
    I ask this because it feels awkward to call for dungeons to be the strongest showcase of healer need. Dungeons, specifically story dungeons, are meant to be accessed by the community as a whole.
    Again, missing the point here. It's not that dungeons need to be the strongest showcase of healer need.

    Healers just need something to do in dungeons. Doubly so if you get a War/DNC or whatnot that's doing their best to yoink what little healing there is.

    Spamming 1 of 2 buttons endlessly isn't it.
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  5. #385
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    Macchi Ato
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    Dawntrail is already finished. There's no use asking for a change. There are two ways out:

    1) Hope that the new foray content will replace all four-man content for tomes and relics. No healers should be required. You can't queue roulettes without a healer, so those forms of content will just have to die. Raids can be cleared with non-standard parties in PF as usual. No one will miss the absence of healers and the game will be better off without hallway dungeons, so nothing of value will be lost. Many MMOs and RPGs don't have a healer class either and you will likely enjoy forays more.

    2) If #1 isn't possible, make The War Within more popular than Dawntrail. You all will have to go back to WoW where healers actually exist. If #1 is impossible it would likely be due to forays sucking or not even existing, which is typical for Square Enix. No forays would mean that Dawntrail would be worse than both Endwalker and WoW and you can safely leave the game without missing anything.

    I'm sure a couple of people will be sad to see healers in FFXIV die off, but most people will be fine. It's a video game and healers were always trash in FFXIV. Don't pretend that Cleric Stance made anything better, because it didn't.

    And if you really, really want to heal in a video game, may I suggest not letting a woman do a man's work?
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 06-10-2024 at 09:12 AM.

  6. #386
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    They will change things if there's enough demand, and you can que roulettes without a healer, just have to group up first.
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    I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.

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  7. #387
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    Grymblyss Himalwyn
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    Brynhildr
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    As a warrior main this is supreme content. Good stuff.
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  8. #388
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    Casey Mino
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    Omega
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Wait, wait, wait.

    You mean to tell me the dedicated 'healer mains' who scream 'you pull you tank', that haven't put any damaging abilities on their bars are on strike?

    I wholeheartedly support your strike. Honestly, you should take it even further and refuse to queue any dungeons as any job, that'll show them.
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  9. #389
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    Jamer'a Yhoung
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I’ve been healing since ARR phase 3 beta. It has been so disheartening to see healing gameplay destroyed across the expansions. I support this strike.
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  10. #390
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    Sea Jae
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I've been doing my part for 5 years. The healer role in this game is a joke.

    I find far more enjoyment playing DNC in PvP and landing a double-value curing waltz heal on a teammate than playing a real healer in any PvE content.
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    Last edited by SeaJae; 06-10-2024 at 09:40 AM.

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