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  1. #3451
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WeakestZenosEnjoyer View Post
    okay but hear me out,

    a tankless clear shouldn't be possible either, "the bullet in my shoulder is overblown, there's a bullet in my foot too"
    Why not? Dungeons were never serious content, especially leveling dungeons.
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  2. #3452
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Except, again, you're not asked why you're leaving. If they see subs drop and try and take action, it's a shot in the dark because people who have unsubbed aren't asked for feedback and cannot provide feedback through official means.

    But if people simply just don't play healer in queues instead, it becomes very obvious that the problem lies with healers. They then have a clear point of reference when taking action.

    Unsubbing is only valid if the end goal is to attack the wallet. You do not need to unsub to attack the metrics, in fact, attacking the metrics is easier if you are subbed.

    Take relics for example, if someone unsubs over it, they are taken out of the maximum of the participation numbers, but if someone is subbed and doesn't engage with it, they're taken out of the number of participants. The latter is more damaging to the metrics while the former helps the metrics look better.

    It's also worth noting that it's a lot harder to entice people who leave the game to come back than it is to hold onto people who are dissatisfied by appeasing them.



    Here you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the strike. We do not care about the company, we do not want to engage with the company, we want to engage with the DEV TEAM, and hitting their metrics is the best way to get there.
    youre not considerign that if queue is takin too long, ssomeone who doesnt play healer an just change to healer to move along quicker, ive done this before, many have done this before,

    continueing to give the developers money when youre unhappy wont actually do anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by currentlemon View Post
    Having “Expert” roulette dungeons in duty finder be at minimum item level would be a step in the right direction.
    what does this do, all this means is that for a lot of people there is no reason for ilvl geear progression, whicch is an entirely different discussion
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    Last edited by 4clubbedace; 06-19-2024 at 03:40 AM.

  3. 06-19-2024 03:40 AM

  4. #3453
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    Kesmar's Avatar
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    Hanekawa Celphast
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    It's a dungeon, the easiest content in the game, and it's Warrior, a job that has literally always been able to do that. I highly value WAR's ability to not care about the rest of the party in dungeons. I have to spam dungeon roulettes for tomes and dungeons are home to the worst of the worst players this game has to offer. I will take WAR and I will do my WAR thing and ignore my party completely, I never want to go back to the days where a dungeon takes 40+ min and the healer throws a fit cause I do full pulls. This strike is stupid, your position as healer will matter still in the 99% of dungeon runs that don't have a chad WAR sustaining themselves, and it still matters in Extremes/Unreals/Savage/Ultimate/Alliance/Criterion/literally every piece of content. If this "strike" actually makes a noticeable affect on queues (unlikely), thanks for the instant healer queues since SCH is one of the first jobs I'm leveling.
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  5. #3454
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    Rehayem's Avatar
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Xeno posted his take on the thread and has very good takes and objective look:

    - He knows content is balanced around extreme/savage/ultimate
    - He agrees there's no middle ground
    - He agrees 1 button spam is awful and boring

    Unlike MrHappy, he actually provided good, well articulated insight rather than straight up dismissing it. It's funny how the bald man has given better objectivity than most content creators.

    I think it's important to remember the point of the "strike" is to call YoshiP's attention to the issues. 5 years and "healer feedback" threads have been ignored, and a "healer strike" has a catchy tag to it, which amplifies the problem even more. The strike doesn't have to work, it's just to make the devs aware they need to start looking into it, starting by maybe improving the encounter design and/or making healer DPS a bit more enganging (since that's the direction they're taking)
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  6. #3455
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    Teraflopps's Avatar
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    Jotan Yotolin
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by UrielSolaris View Post
    I find it ridiculous that people can invest so much time and energy for a "healer strike" in FFXIV. Why not wait until the actual content for the new healers is out so you can judge them in the environment they were made for?

    Y'all could have used that time spent protesting for something important like Palestine instead. Just saying.
    see this person gets it!!1
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  7. #3456
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    Nightshade878's Avatar
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    X'lyhhia Wiloh
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    Malboro
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    White Mage Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Teraflopps View Post
    see this person gets it!!1
    No, he doesn't. He's naive at best and disingenuous at worst. Again, I'm not getting into it in depth here but suffice to say none of us have the power to meaningfully influence government decision making. Sorry, we're not rich enough to buy a senator.
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  8. #3457
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    currentlemon's Avatar
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    Celica Genhu
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    Hey it's me, the bogeyman of the forums again. Just wanted to say again that if you haven't been happy for years and years, you should probably unsub. Maybe the game just isn't for you anymore. When the game is no longer for me, I'm going to unsub too like a normal person instead of whatever all this is. Thanks, have a great day!
    I already quit the game for over a year. Missed most of EW. Came back a few months ago because I wanted to play the game again and try Jobs like BRD and MNK, which I like.

    I’ve been aware of the healer issues since 5.0 (started in 4.05). Played WHM from when I started to 5.55, but dropped the job in EW. While I do think WHM and SGE have improved in DT, I will continue to strike as I don’t mind waiting a bit more for some positive changes.

    Tank sustain nerfs would be a good start. And then some slight reworks of the DPS kit such as lowering DoT cooldowns and not locking the new DPS actions behind long cooldowns.
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  9. #3458
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    aiqa's Avatar
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    youre not considerign that if queue is takin too long, ssomeone who doesnt play healer an just change to healer to move along quicker, ive done this before, many have done this before,

    continueing to give the developers money when youre unhappy wont actually do anything.
    Is "strike" really such a difficult concept to understand. A strike looks to affect things without quitting (either your job or a game).

    And you can't decide of the strike is going to do anything or not, that is up to the devs. Why would anyone believe your predictions?
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  10. 06-19-2024 03:48 AM

  11. #3459
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    znushu's Avatar
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    Vylesha Eumoilhar
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Healing was unironically better in 1.0.
    So I am all for this strike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    The thing is 1.0 where it ended was headed in a great direction imo....

  12. #3460
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Big angry bald man: I understand why people are upset.

    Friendly happy guy: That’s the dumbest f-being thing.


    This is why Xeno has 1000 times more respect from me than Happy does. And not because of this either. It’s just funny how you can see the type of people creators are through their personas.
    Overall I like Xeno because he isn't afraid to criticize the game and he cares more about the game instead of fearing the Wrath of Yoshi P not giving him a Media Tour invite.

    Most other Content Creators like MrHappy will not openly criticize or show any negativity towards FFXIV in any way.
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