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  1. #3431
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    With the addition of Duty support, I think the putting pressure on healers argument is dumb now.
    Just rename duty support to "story mode" keep them easy and make regular online dungeons hard enough that all roles are needed and you can't brainlessly go through them. Then everyone can play the story but the normal players can not have an incredible jump from normal mode to extreme/savage, where you actually have to use the kit you neglect as all roles in this game throughout the story.
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  2. #3432
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    Look at Warrior now, lol. I wish Healers had a streamer with a spine.
    Because healing in this game is boring and atrocious. It doesn't make for very exciting streaming content, so hardly any of them play it (full time).
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  3. #3433
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    Kazmarek's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Maruhira
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Hey it's me, the bogeyman of the forums again. Just wanted to say again that if you haven't been happy for years and years, you should probably unsub. Maybe the game just isn't for you anymore. When the game is no longer for me, I'm going to unsub too like a normal person instead of whatever all this is. Thanks, have a great day!
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  4. #3434
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    Alfarini Sintasmus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bibine_Bine View Post
    You said healers do matter, and I counter with this:
    A group cleared The Omega Protocol. With no healers. No healers. One of the hardest pieces of content in the game, and they didn't need a healer. Healers do not matter anymore.
    Seriously? That was a highly coordinated group that took a long time to get finished, and just because of that you think healers don't matter? Comparing that TOP team with random people you find in PF or in roulette it's insane. Of course you can complete content without a role type if you have an actual gameplan, day one of the 3rd Ally EW raid I joined an all tank party and cleared it. You going to tell me we don't need dps and healers after being able to do that? It's definitely not hard content but it's the same argument.

    Your TOP clear with no healers point is ridiculous, the smallest of the small minority of players doing something cool does not make an impact on the game as a whole. You see it and think "oh man healers are useless" when in reality it's healers are not needed in a group that has every second of a fight memorized, making absolutely zero mistakes. This is an insane thing to do, and thinking it's how the rest of the community plays really tells me how narrow minded alot of these "protesters" are. Healers matter in every form of content, because not everyone is playing to there absolute peak. People die or get hit by a mechanic and need some heals, even the best players in the world make mistakes. We need healers. If you don't like how healers are right now, play a different job, we have it cushy in 14 we can play any Job on one character. Unlike in wow for example where you have to remake a Chara, boost it and then gear it just to play another class. Oh and don't forget that in wow if you do any damage at all your yelled at for not only healing, ff14 healers have it better than wows healers so be grateful for that. Here come the healer tears after this.
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  5. #3435
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    Hey it's me, the bogeyman of the forums again. Just wanted to say again that if you haven't been happy for years and years, you should probably unsub. Maybe the game just isn't for you anymore. When the game is no longer for me, I'm going to unsub too like a normal person instead of whatever all this is. Thanks, have a great day!
    Nah, I'm gonna main paladin and picto in DawnTrail so I can increase your queue time instead.

    I'll have no need to unsub when I'm having fun playing a job that isn't an empty husk.
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  6. #3436
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    Nightshade878's Avatar
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    X'lyhhia Wiloh
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    Hey it's me, the bogeyman of the forums again. Just wanted to say again that if you haven't been happy for years and years, you should probably unsub. Maybe the game just isn't for you anymore. When the game is no longer for me, I'm going to unsub too like a normal person instead of whatever all this is. Thanks, have a great day!

    That's the same tired argument people use to counter criticism of ANY systemic issue be it in real life or in a videogame. "If you dont like it, just leave."
    It's an empty argument that ends up fixing nothing. A deflection.
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  7. #3437
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Nah, I'm gonna main paladin and picto in DawnTrail so I can increase your queue time instead.

    I'll have no need to unsub when I'm having fun playing a job that isn't an empty husk.
    Oh no! Not the queue times! /s
    You know there's more than just you playing the game right? The world is not centered around you. You know what I do and what millions of others do to help queues? Switch to a tank or healer.
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  8. #3438
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Xenosys posted a video about the thread.
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  9. #3439
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    XIV tubers outside of the bald warrior almost never have strong stances on the game and are always neutral, it honestly pretty annoying. I'd prefer is Zepla and Mr Happy weren't wishywashy with their opinion and either said they think the strike idea is stupid and that healers are fine or support it. But then again the toxic faux nice casual fanbase would probably rip them apart like they did with Zepla after her opinion on Endwalker because for some reason you can't like a game and admit that it has problems.
    Well good news, Mr. Happy called the healer strike is the dumbest thing he's ever seen. https://youtu.be/v1pheogEplw?t=379
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  10. #3440
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    That healers have a very simplified kit for dealing damage is a valid complaint, but that dungeons can be completed without a healer is overblown, as dungeons can also be completed without a tank.
    okay but hear me out,

    a tankless clear shouldn't be possible either, "the bullet in my shoulder is overblown, there's a bullet in my foot too"
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