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  1. #3361
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    My argument is that it's entirely disingenuous to say that ShB and EW are somehow easier than ARR or HW. They're absolutely not.
    I think ARR and HW were way harder because rotations were harder, mechanics were brand new and the damage, heal and tanking checks were way harder. Even SB was harder than ShB and EW looks at the alliance raids, people still wipe to them after 7 years. I think ShB and EW aren't harder but they require way more movement and constant reacting which would make them nearly impossible with old style rotations and stats. The only healing check I can think of in EW is P10S besides that healing is pretty simple and even then after you get used to P10S its just CD you save.
    I mean people still die in Hard mode dungeons from ARR and a lot of HW/SB dungeons were dumbed down for duty support. I think that the game has gotten easier it just throws more stuff at you way faster.
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  2. #3362
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Seraph
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It's so cute you think this is going to somehow spread throughout the entire community and somehow work. There will always be folks willing to heal. Also, this is futile. SE ain't gonna do anything.
    (3)
    "The worst foe lies within the self."

  3. #3363
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    We need to find some way to force the people in charge of designing combat to play through the entire game as a Healer, all the way from the character creation to end of 7.0... See if they would still think Healers are in an acceptable position.
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  4. #3364
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    It's so cute you think this is going to somehow spread throughout the entire community and somehow work. There will always be folks willing to heal. Also, this is futile. SE ain't gonna do anything.
    Maybe. Maybe nothing changes and healer job design remains this bad until the servers shut down. No harm in trying tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  5. #3365
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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 98
    Remember guys, if you're gonna strike the most impact you can have is to never fill any PF along with not going into roulettes.

    How much difference it will make who knows. But showing hundreds of pages of discontentment with healers hopefully gets Yoshi P's attention.
    (7)

  6. #3366
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    It's so cute you think this is going to somehow spread throughout the entire community and somehow work. There will always be folks willing to heal. Also, this is futile. SE ain't gonna do anything.
    Will you be a good little angel and go play healers for me? I want my dps queues faster.
    (19)

  7. #3367
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Remember guys, if you're gonna strike the most impact you can have is to never fill any PF along with not going into roulettes.

    How much difference it will make who knows. But showing hundreds of pages of discontentment with healers hopefully gets Yoshi P's attention.
    Alternatively, in order to get content actually done, just go in and NEVER cast a single heal. Not even an oGCD one. Just be a subpar DPS and let the tanks keep themselves alive just as the developers intended.
    (1)

  8. #3368
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    Myrany's Avatar
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Zalera
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    Miner Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Alternatively, in order to get content actually done, just go in and NEVER cast a single heal. Not even an oGCD one. Just be a subpar DPS and let the tanks keep themselves alive just as the developers intended.
    Doing this is probably not a good plan as there are a great many people that will simply report a healer for not healing when it is needed as not doing their part in the team. Far better to not queue at all.

    Edit: serious multiquote mishap
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  10. #3369
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Being a DPS bot intentionally will just build enmity against healers, "they can't be trusted with a rotation they'll already just let me die" is a current argument people have,

    + if something does go wrong it's basically griefing and if nothing goes wrong... you've just played a healer
    (3)

  11. #3370
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Character
    Kara Dusksinger
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Folks can do runs without healers or worst do runs without tanks just so healers have the trill of actually healing... something just aint right there...
    (2)

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