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  1. #2921
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    Rawker Stone
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    Paladin Lv 90
    It looks like someone cares too much about the movement more than those who are actually participating in it and have been ignored for years.. I wonder why?
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  2. #2922
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    Kazmarek's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Maruhira
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    It looks like someone cares too much about the movement more than those who are actually participating in it and have been ignored for years.. I wonder why?
    That's my entire post history, not limited to just this thread. A lot of the stuff I've said I will stand by. Some of the things in there were intentionally ridiculous because the people I was responding to were equally as ridiculous. If people would like, I will go through each and every one to tell you which I stand by and which were intentionally stupid.
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  3. #2923
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    I think this is something we should nip in the bud.

    I would appreciate that if you disagree with the thread topic, then you do so in a more polite way and have an open conversation rather than get disrespectful, clown what other people are saying, or argue in bad faith. I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to react to that kind of behavior in as gentle of a way possible when it inevitably happens either(or at all; let's be honest). But taking things to the extreme is neither healthy for discussion, nor the issues we're trying to talk about.

    This is not a a kindergarden classroom, but it's not Coral Prison either.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

  4. #2924
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    Flora Kosaki
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    TY for calling out that lunatic. @Eorzean_username
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    Last edited by BunnyQueen; 06-17-2024 at 01:01 PM.
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  5. #2925
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    Cinnamon Maruhira
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I think this is something we should nip in the bud.

    I would appreciate that if you disagree with the thread topic, then you do so in a more polite way and have an open conversation rather than get disrespectful, clown what other people are saying, or argue in bad faith. I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to react to that kind of behavior in as gentle of a way possible when it inevitably happens either(or at all; let's be honest). But taking things to the extreme is neither healthy for discussion, nor the issues we're trying to talk about.

    This is not a a kindergarden classroom, but it's not Coral Prison either.
    My dude I did come in here trying to be polite at first. It was you all that got disrespectful with me because I disagreed that warrior sustain needed to be nerfed. From the responses I got, you'd think I went and personally slapped all of you in the face. That's when I got disrespectful myself.
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  6. #2926
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    Evian Ymir
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
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    You actually grabbed 83 of one person’s messages? I get that you are passionate about this thing, but this is on a whole nother level and borders on obsessive.
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  7. #2927
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    My dude I did come in here trying to be polite at first. It was you all that got disrespectful with me because I disagreed that warrior sustain needed to be nerfed. From the responses I got, you'd think I went and personally slapped all of you in the face. That's when I got disrespectful myself.
    I been watching, I call BS, you where the person who got rude first. Nice try on gaslighting. Wanna try again?
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  8. #2928
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think we need to put some more effort into self moderating here

    We already have a massive healer issues thread going as well as many suggestions buried in the healer forums.

    Maybe we should transition to something more like

    Person A- asks a question
    Person B- here is when we discussed this in the healer forums, have a read of that and tell us what you think


    This forum is getting clogged up with gotchas and questions asked as nauseum that are then getting buried and then asked again
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #2929
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    Shyllen's Avatar
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    Godbert Manderville
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    Halicarnassus
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    Warrior Lv 88
    Assuming a tank nerf happens, and my agency to help my party as a tank is completely taken away in the context of a bad or suboptimal healer. I can pretty much guarantee that I'll never queue for duties again outside of MSQ patches.
    There are far better ways to cap weekly tomes (see hunt trains).

    Having your ability to clear content be gated by the competency of a single roles is unfair, this is megalomania, I'm sure most of you are aware that tanks aren't needed either in casual(normal) content. Expert roulette can be cleared with two (or even one) healer easily, modern alliance raids too (you can survive a tankbuster in Euphrosyne with literally just divine benison and aquaveil + food @660ivl), Healer only ARs have been cycled through in Dynamis DC partyfinder.

    I understand the overly simplified DPS rotation being a problem, but this intense desire to have other roles completely rely on you to survive in normal content even when they never get hit and press their survival buttons very well, comes across as gross and clearly overstepping behaviour. Players of non-healer roles deserve some sense of agency over their game play, especially when personal agency is so lacking in day to day life.

    Please make this about your experiences only and don't step on other roles.
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  10. #2930
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    Good Person
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EvianYmir89 View Post
    You actually grabbed 83 of one person’s messages? I get that you are passionate about this thing, but this is on a whole nother level and borders on obsessive.
    Not to take sides, but tbf its really not any more obsessive than the person in question attempting to derail and discredit the thread for no other reason beyond what I presume to be "malicious for the sake of being malicious" for the last handful of pages, if not more than that. I think they even admitted to in some post that their goal post is to make the discussion less credible by antagonizing certain individuals and incite them to reacting in some particular way and in turn making the whole strike seem like a joke.
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