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  1. #2781
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Believe me when I say this: everytime I zone into daily dungeon roulettes as any healer and see that I got paired with a WAR at lv56 or higher contents, I beg to the stars to (mis)align, hoping that they'll play like an absolute dog$h!t so I got something more to do.

    Alternatively, I beg that somehow I can cause a glitch to the system and allow me to change to 3rd DPS so I can be more than a "3rd worse DPS" in the party. I'm NOT needed there.

    Same can be applied to PLD from lv82 and above. They DON'T need me, at all.
    best duty to get as a healer is MSQ with a warr... I get to dps when everyone is up and actually get to heal the tank.. because I dont think they have any of that yet at the equalized level of 50.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  2. #2782
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    best duty to get as a healer is MSQ with a warr... I get to dps when everyone is up and actually get to heal the tank.. because I dont think they have any of that yet at the equalized level of 50.
    It isn't until 56 where they suddenly ascend into divinity, ironically I'm pretty sure they're the weakest tank at 50 as Holmgang doesn't have the heals to match it, and Thrill of Battle as just +% max health isn't exactly, well thrilling.
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    Last edited by WeakestZenosEnjoyer; 06-17-2024 at 05:55 AM.

  3. #2783
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    Really? I thought it was quite a pleasant exchange overall. I'm not keeping up with the whole thread, but the immediate responses I remember were quite cordial. There's always the chance for one or another unpleasant comment, but that's not the general tone at all.
    And I disagree with your latter sentiment, there has been some good discussion and suggestions in the thread.
    (Here's to 300 pages!)
    There was one post expressing a dislike of the extreme politeness of Japanese culture in a very rude way, but that's about it.
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  4. #2784
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    Arylett's Avatar
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    Arylett Charnoa
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    Maduin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I don't think I can stop playing healer because I'm too attached to the role [and I really really love WHM], but I definitely have the same complaints as you guys and have been extremely aggravated when I get a Warrior in a queue. Saw this coming miles away when they decided to DOUBLE DOWN on Warrior's ridiculous healing instead of nerfing it. God, I hate this so much. [Note: I have no animosity towards Warrior players and would prefer people to enjoy playing what they like. I only object to the job's design, which makes my role feel useless.]

    I get the feeling that most casual modern gamers just don't have the patience for support roles because the more recent RPGs I've tried cut out healing and support as much as possible for the RAW DAMAGE NUMBERS. Unfortunately, support mains like us are a minority. We're not as flashy and cool, according to them, so they'd rather eliminate us. They don't understand that being a healer and support is a power fantasy for some people as much as just ungabunga raw damage killdeath numbers. The satisfaction I derive from saving someone from the brink of death, carrying an entire group far surpasses that of merely being another one of the damaging drones that kills the boss. I had that experience reawakened in me when I got some newbies in a level 90 dungeon queue and I felt like a vital piece of the party rather than a big fat nothing. I had to rez, use CURE 2 BECAUSE I RAN OUT OF AFFLATUSES AND COOLDOWNS WITH HOW MUCH DAMAGE THEY WERE TAKING... it was glorious. After that, I felt a profound sadness. It is very unlikely I will experience that rush again.

    We're just dead weight to them. I don't have much hopes for anything to change in the general gaming sphere, but MAYBE they'll listen to us in FF14 finally. I say this as a big MAYBE, because I've been around since Heavensward and saw the neutering of Scholar. The most likely scenario is making the healer role into a just support DPS as others have suggested and folding RDM, BRD, and DNC into it. It wouldn't be ideal, but at least I'd get to do something.

    I might stick to Trusts so as to not fill the queues, to help in some minor way. Trusts are more fun anyway because they still kind of suck, especially if you do a full pull. I don't really play the game much anyway except for story and I mostly play with my tank husband [thankfully not a Warrior main], so I can just avoid joining queues as much as possible. If things get really bad though, I'll probably switch to RDM. I can't bear to leave behind support still and want to do it in some way, even if it's minor. Having a rez on a job is a must for me and they said they were thinking about axing it from SMN in the next expansion, so that leaves RDM as my only option.

    I'm with you guys though! It's worth trying even if nothing is likely to happen.
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    Last edited by Arylett; 06-17-2024 at 09:20 AM. Reason: Clarifications

  5. #2785
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    KellyEwer's Avatar
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    Emily Rosethorne
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    Brynhildr
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    I've got to tell you... this seems extremely petty. I've found that, over the years, Squeenix has made changes to a lot of jobs, some of which I liked, and some of which I did not. None, however, have ever ruined a job for me to the point I can't play it.

    I can't choose what you do with your character, and I wouldn't attempt it. But I think the only time I've heard a more trivial complaint is when people were complaining on the Minecraft forums when they first added weather, that it "ruined the game."

    If you don't want to heal, don't heal. Simple as that.
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  6. #2786
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    UnconfirmedCat's Avatar
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    Miau Miau
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    Gilgamesh
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KellyEwer View Post

    If you don't want to heal, don't heal. Simple as that.
    My brother in Hydaelyn, that's the entire point of the thread.
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  7. #2787
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    OdinelStarrei's Avatar
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KellyEwer View Post
    If you don't want to heal, don't heal. Simple as that.
    That's...that's what we're doing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

  8. #2788
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    Crithril Orthorien
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    So this whole thread is just about "content" that is so trivial that 4 bards could do it?
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  9. #2789
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dwodmots View Post
    So this whole thread is just about "content" that is so trivial that 4 bards could do it?
    There are actual savage logs on the previous page, if that's trivial then surely we have a problem
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  10. #2790
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    Kazmarek's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Maruhira
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dwodmots View Post
    So this whole thread is just about "content" that is so trivial that 4 bards could do it?
    Pretty much yeah. Healers are mad that warriors are good in dungeons and can't really think outside of that. A lot of them haven't even experienced higher-end content. The ones that have are saying they'd like more dps buttons, which the casuals are kind of just ignoring because it's specifically warrior that's ruining their jobs.

    My dudes. Dungeons aren't good content. If you're basing your entire experience off of dungeon runs, your opinion is completely invalid. Unsub if you're not having fun. Be responsible for once in your lives. Y'all are actually beyond ridiculous at this point.
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