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  1. #2361
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    Quote Originally Posted by Print_Screen View Post
    You realize this would be excellent PR right? "FFXIV healers are so boring, people are paying others to play them!"
    As funny as this would be, trust exist, 1T3D exist. Trials can be done with 1 or none healer as well.

    It would be crazy if extremes or savage pops were dictated by healers selling spots, but that would just require way more support than we have already.

    Hope it'll happen!
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  2. #2362
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    Y'all heal strikers are hilarious, please continue
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  3. #2363
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    As a reminder, the strike is not players marching across Limsa in /shout preaching demands. It's a # with a promise to simply not play healer until the role improves, which many vets(and new players alike) were already doing anyway sans the #. Because , atleast for me, why would i want to play the equivalent of watching paint dry for yet another expansion? Lmao

    Though It'd be funny if we did march & protest in game, then started getting thrown in GM jail presumably for being disruptive, or malicious.
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    Last edited by GoodPerson; 06-16-2024 at 02:17 AM.

  4. #2364
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonjava View Post
    My point is this: until such time as the above transpires, there is no evidence that "healers are in an awful state and need to be completely reworked" is a majority opinion or that it should be given any more weight than any other opinion, and therefore there is no ground to demand the kinds of immediate and sweeping changes I've seen demanded in this thread. Your opinion on the state of healers and whether or not they should be reworked is not universally true, is not more valuable than the opinions of extreme casuals, hardcore raiders, non-healers, or anyone else, and does not justify condescending to and belittling people who disagree. That's it, really.
    What evidence are you looking for, exactly? In my last response to you, you were questioning the presence of any tangible evidence that our voices have gone beyond these forums. Now you want evidence that healers are in a awful state. How many more times are you going to move the goalposts?

    However, I will point out that healers being in a terrible state has already been exhibited because it is irrefutable that all forms of content can be completed without healers, and that is a problem. One of the demands stated in the manifesto clearly states that player contribution should be equal across all roles. Healers are not being naïve nor selfish and they understand that it wouldn't be any better if content could be cleared with an all healer party, or without tanks. Everyone should have their place, and feel like they are contributing. Anyone who cannot understand this is either out of touch, lacks compassion, or both.

    This movement has got me in touch with a lot of players. Many of them have expressed to me how they feel knowing that they are basically someone to fill the queue so it will pop. That other than that, they serve no purpose. It's is an absolutely horrible, empty feeling. And these aren't your run of the mill donut healers. These are members of the community who genuinely care about players, and the game itself. It's those players who have already been impacted. So again I ask you, what evidence do you need?

    Oh, and one last thing. The healers on strike are not unrealistic and demanding immediate changes/reworks to the healers and the role. However, with the knowledge we have that all jobs are being looked at for 8.0 there is no better time to get our voices heard than now, but we want to know our voices are heard. We don't want another expansion to drop only to witness more of the same. The strike will continue until these issues are addressed formally, and honestly, I think the more time that passes, the more support it will gain. It doesn't matter if the result is 10 less healers in the queue, or 10,000. It's already gone well beyond this. The question isn't what going to happen come the launch of Dawntrail, the question is what will happen when 8.0 drops and these issues have not been addressed.
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  5. #2365
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    Quote Originally Posted by PintyMcEars View Post
    Y'all heal strikers are hilarious, please continue
    We are more than happy to continue to amuse you.
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  6. #2366
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    I have been playing since 2014 and know the classes all go through changes. I even know that the devs just seemingly can't balance healers. I even know that since shadowbringers that classes been dumbed down.

    I still can't wrap my head around this strike. This game don't pay you a living wage and you have freedom to play any class you want. Not to mention none of you have even played dawntrail yet to see if the changes even make sense. I mean is your hopes that they spend the next 13 days reverting changes and possibly pushing back launch date cause you don't agree with the changes?

    Then the whining would be from the rest about a delay because a handful decided to "strike" based on info they seen and not even tried. How do you think healers will be perceived after that.

    Not to mention, you do "strike" and enterprising players will be making a killing on gil selling healer queues.
    I think you need to check the forums chick.

    Healers have been begging for some sort of engagement for YEARS! Be it a dps rotation, something thing to heal..

    Anything from pressing 11111211111.

    With the latest reveal, we're fed up now, as I've explained - I don't even know when to heal anymore and that's a problem. I understand things change but it is beyond a joke now - my role from arr that I adore - ruined.

    Look how much traction this thread has had since it started? People are telling SE that enough is enough.

    The role is been invalidated so either change it to dps and give everyone a heal or change it to support. DO SOMETHING!
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  7. #2367
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    Quote Originally Posted by PintyMcEars View Post
    Y'all heal strikers are hilarious, please continue
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    I'm a fool
    I know nothing
    I take the role of a silly clown
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    here to please, feel free to join in the fun!
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  8. #2368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    No, a group of elite veteran streamers being able to do something doesn't mean anything is "broken." Things are "broken" when something applies to your typical, average player. Not to your no-lifer who has become one of the top few of the top few players and is able to play at a level most of the playerbase isn't anywhere close to.
    Those elite veteran streamers played like absolute monkeys and that actually further demonstrated that WAR being immortal is still very much the case. Like there was a video where the whole group died while boss was at ~50% so the warrior just soloed it (over an agonizing period of time)
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    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

  9. #2369
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Those elite veteran streamers played like absolute monkeys and that actually further demonstrated that WAR being immortal is still very much the case. Like there was a video where the whole group died while boss was at ~50% so the warrior just soloed it (over an agonizing period of time)
    Agreed, bit silly and a massive waste of time for people.
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  10. #2370
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    I would like to engage with the systems in a GAME, not just watch ppl do it for me while I'm behind a barrier, that how you lose subscriptions. I'd go watch netflix
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