#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ForsakenRoe]

i still don't understand why cleric stance was straight up removed. it was too hard? ok, but it was also fun, so don't delete it, re-balance it. make it an optimization thing instead of a requirement. like a +5%/-5% alteration.

A SCH rework I posted over in healer forums had this, but even less punishing: Three stances called Strategies that modify certain abilities. For example, Defensive would make your gameplay more defensive in nature, with such things as Indom applying as a barrier, Expedient's mitigation being boosted to 15%, or Excogitation additionally applying a barrier. Strategy: Emergency would replace Emergency Tactics, and effectively function similarly: Sacrifice the barrier for stronger healing. Unlike ET, it'd be a Stance and so you could use multiple actions in 'Emergency mode' (and more actions would be modified by it, such as boosting Indom's potency by 100p, making Protraction/Excogitation have an upfront heal, etc).

Finally, the point I was getting to, Strategy: Offensive. All it would do is increase the potency of the base cast (not the DOT portion) of Bio, the returning Miasma, and the returning Shadowflare, by 20p. Optimization would be to swap to Strategy: Offensive right before any DOT refreshes, and swap back to Defensive or Emergency to bolster the power of your healing tools. But choosing not to optimize would lose a mere 20p per DOT refresh, of which there would be (due to their durations of 30s, 24s and 15s respectively) 4 Bio refreshes per 2min, 5 Miasma, and 8 Shadowflares. So, ignoring Strategy: Offensive entirely would lose a player just 340p per 2 minutes, just over one single Broil worth of damage. It's absolutely nothing when it comes to enrage checks, but optimizers would find fun in trying to eke out any amount of bonus damage.

The issue with Cleric Stance of old was that it screwed you out of healing power if you mismanaged it. I think the design can be made to work well, without punishing the player for mismanaging because of stressful situation (eg overwhelmed in progression) or because they're new to the job.

[Morr_Ar]

Given that Healers have the shortest queues by far, there really aren't lots more to replace them. Healers represent 25% of the group in most content but they are nowhere close to 25% of the overall player population. Given that Healers represent the main bottleneck in forming DF groups, any hit to their participation, even a minor one, has a disproportionate effect on queue times. Especially if those same Healers who are striking switch to other roles and add their numbers to the roles trying to get through the bottleneck.

[Gemina]

Well there is a live letter tomorrow. If they're gonna comment on it, it'll probably be there.

Probably not. I don't say that because I have doubt about Yoshi and the dev team becoming aware of the strike, but because what he plans to address in the LL likely took place well before this thread's existence and the ensuing coverage it has received. There's an itinerary to these kind of things so the release of DT stays on course. I haven't lost my sense of reality amongst all this. Just sleep xD

[JamsC]

I think it's time that action like this is a necessity. I will take part and absolutely support the goals here.

I've mained healer (SCH more specifically) since 2.0 and the gulf in the game I played to the game I play now is unbelievable. It's likely a boomer take, I'm aware, but it does pretty much hit on the problems people have.

Thinking back to my 2.0 T12 coil runs, where me and my co-healer were THE reason why we made it through a fight, all while I had limitless options to optimise my play through aetherflow management, aggro management (much more involved), mp management (much more involved), Cleric Stance management, more interesting AoE (aetherflow bane and shadowflare/sacred soil optimisation) and single target DPS kit (multi-dots and Cleric switching). I had my strengths and weaknesses, as did my co-healer. If the WHM ever went down, it was a gargantuan effort to heal heavy AOE situations as 2.0 SCH - and that's actually okay. These days, every healer has shields, heals, mitigation, regen, heal buffs, etc. - all oGCD and readily available.

There were absolutely aspects that needed modernisation and it's a plausible rose-tinted goggles situation, but I think right up until ShB we had a good thing going. The aggro changes, mp changes, and erosion of our kits into an amorphous oGCD healing blob has taken so much away from content.

Glad this is getting some serious traction and I hope the devs properly give this the attention it deserves, because if nothing changes we'll have been in this healer malaise for more than half the game's lifespan by 8.0's launch.

Such good memories I wish we could have healing gameplay of that depth again.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

Given that Healers have the shortest queues by far, there really aren't lots more to replace them. Healers represent 25% of the group in most content but they are nowhere close to 25% of the overall player population. Given that Healers represent the main bottleneck in forming DF groups, any hit to their participation, even a minor one, has a disproportionate effect on queue times. Especially if those same Healers who are striking switch to other roles and add their numbers to the roles trying to get through the bottleneck.

"Tank in need,"
look inside,
healer instant pop,

don't forget everyone being drawn to PIC and VPR irregardless of what they normally play or what the forums say because that's what expansion launches look like.

[wezzco]

They need to do something about the disparity between casual healing and ultimate healing.

DPSs feel like a natural progression, when learning new abilities and introducing them to your opener, rotation, etc.

But Healers are the complete opposite, you gain so many tools that are absolutely not needed in current casual content, and don't have an "opener" for you to practice with every instance. But then, when you step into harder content, they require a lot more management.

[Jeeqbit]

Probably not. I don't say that because I have doubt about Yoshi and the dev team becoming aware of the strike, but because what he plans to address in the LL likely took place well before this thread's existence and the ensuing coverage it has received. There's an itinerary to these kind of things so the release of DT stays on course. I haven't lost my sense of reality amongst all this. Just sleep xD

Often they would see if they need to respond to something that is 100-200 pages and this many likes, nevermind youtube videos on it. I am just thinking it doesn't make logical sense to bother with that when a live letter is about to happen. I wouldn't expect there to need to be a lengthy segment on it, but they make them last a few hours anyway so what's a bit more time...

[Anatha]

Keep seeing people here insist healers are useless, and yet the entire idea of this is attempting to hold everyone else hostage by not healing.

Those two things are not compatible.

This is ridiculous.

[Evergrey]

Keep seeing people here insist healers are useless, and yet the entire idea of this is attempting to hold everyone else hostage by not healing.

Those two things are not compatible.

This is ridiculous.

If duty queues would take a hit from the lack of healers, seeing how healers aren't needed for dungeons people will just start putting up Party Finders for 1 tank and 3 dps to clear said dungeons and then move on with the MSQ.

[Kilyua]

+1 for healer strike from early access until fix from SE dev team.