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  1. #1621
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    Healers when nothing changes: We are not happy, please fix it.

    Healers when something changes: We are not happy, please fix it.
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  2. #1622
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellona_Andrivari View Post
    Healers when nothing changes: We are not happy, please fix it.

    Healers when something changes: We are not happy, please fix it.
    ???? I haven't noticed any changes for healers that address our issues of being bored, having boring DPS rotations, and nothing to heal. Not sure where your second sentence comes from.
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  3. #1623
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Duty Support is a complete ass. Trusts do not AoE, so pulls take a lot of time than a regular group.
    Trusts healers are also very bad at their job, like unless you're a WAR and doing W2W pulls you are in a very real danger of just dying because Alphi or Urianger are too busy twiddling their thumbs.
    Forcing W2W on Trusts as a DPS is also pretty dangerous since you yourself run the risk of just being auto'd to death before Thancred manages to peel the mobs off you. It is doable, and i'd say it's actually fun, but you really need to know how to do that efficiently. Also you do run into potential issue of Trusts not being able to handle said W2W.
    if you somehow mess up and die, it immediately boots you to the start.
    Yeah, that's by design, to prevent Duty Support from outright replacing player queues. But as a DPS player presented with a 30m+ queue due to the lack of healer's queueing, you can just get around it by running the dungeon in duty support. The extra 5 - 10 minutes it takes to clear the dungeon because the NPCs suck at DPSing isn't much of a deterrent when the alternative is to wait even longer for a player queue. Trusts being bad at healing is also pretty irrelevant when the entire reason this thread exists is because healers are literally completely unnecessary in dungeons lol

    The real rebuttal that you should bring up is when you get to a Trial, but even then, when I got to the lv83 trial when Endwalker launched, and we couldn't get a queue to pop because not enough players had gotten that far yet, we just opened a PF and had a SMN main switch to SCH for the fight, and we just cleared it with 1 tank, 1 healer, and 6 dps.
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  4. #1624
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priddy View Post
    I empathize with some of the concerns in this thread, but the mere existence of Duty Support and the fact that the overwhelming majority of healer players aren't browsing the forums or engaging in a strike means this will have effectively no impact whatsoever.

    That being said, the sheer size of this thread may being the issue to devs attention at least, even if the strike itself is almost certainly DOA.
    You cannot do roulettes with trusts.
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    If I speak at one constant volume
    At one constant pitch
    At one constant rhythm right into your ear
    You still won't hear
    #FFXIVHealerStrike

  5. #1625
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Saw on Twitter a lot of people laughing about how ridiculous they find the strike, others saying they never even heard about it. Most of the XIV playerbase avoids coming here.

    Even though I support healers becoming more interesting and upvoted this, I have no intentions on striking myself. If I feel like healing I will, if I don't - I won't.

    Healing has been uninspiring for so long that I lost any emotional investment in it for the most part. #DeadInside

    Can we all agree to stop lying about third parties? Twitter is not universally laughing at the strike. I searched for it after you post, and saw people agreeing and even joining the strike.
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  6. #1626
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    Quote Originally Posted by OgruMogru View Post
    You cannot do roulettes with trusts.
    Well, if the only thing you're trying to accomplish is increasing queue times by maybe a few seconds if EVERY healer in this thread decided to actually quit the role (because this thread represents such a minority of the playerbase), EXCLUSIVELY for roulettes, then it isn't all that much of a strike, is it?
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  7. #1627
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Can we all agree to stop lying about third parties? Twitter is not universally laughing at the strike. I searched for it after you post, and saw people agreeing and even joining the strike.
    I didn't say anything about it is universal. I said "a lot of people." I was on Twitter yesterday and that's what the algorithm showed me.

    Looking at a Tweet now with 2300 upvotes calling the strike stupid.
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  8. #1628
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    So this is the reason I waited 20 minutes as PLD on Tuesday night while doing roulettes, thanks to this stupid movement. Why can you players just play the game? This strike is petty because it is not allowing other people to play group content.
    But I thought that our silly strike would not bother anyone and there would be loads of healers to replace our unimportant selves. The strike is minuscule and we are just a drop in the ocean?

    All I can say is womp, womp. I will enjoy my little DPS, can watch some Netflix while waiting for queue to pop! It is much better than casting Broil and watching Netflix!
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  9. #1629
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I didn't say anything about it is universal. I said "a lot of people." I was on Twitter yesterday and that's what the algorithm showed me.
    Algorithms are tailored to your own bias. Maybe try actually digging-- some of the people's posts joining and mocking the state of healers are actually pretty hilarious.
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  10. #1630
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Algorithms are tailored to your own bias. Maybe try actually digging-- some of the people joining and mocking the state of healers is actually pretty hilarious.
    Um I spent the entire day talking about DA: Veilguard and happened to like some XIV main account "Dawntrail countdown" post, and that's my only XIV activity recently. What bias is there?

    I'm sorry that this is inconvenient to the cause, one I support, but you should be aware that there are also people out there who simply don't care about this.
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