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  1. #1141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    - They think the movement is stupid, because other healers will just fill in due to convenience.
    I think people forget that while the naysayers might get faster queues, they won't be queueing 24/7. Only few lucky DPS will have their pop for roulettes, but after you're done? You're just going to do something else. There's thousands of players on each server, and with double DPS added in Dawntrail, the queues will be abysmal.
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  2. #1142
    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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  3. #1143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    I think people forget that while the naysayers might get faster queues, they won't be queueing 24/7. Only few lucky DPS will have their pop for roulettes, but after you're done? You're just going to do something else. There's thousands of players on each server, and with double DPS added in Dawntrail, the queues will be abysmal.
    You're assuming that there will be enough people taking part in this strike to make an actual statistical difference in queue times. Let's say you get a thousand people, spread out over all the NA and EU data centers. It's just....not going to make a big difference, sorry.

    Healers definitely need some attention from the dev team, but this just...isn't going to work. I posted earlier that opening a dialogue on the JP side of the forums would at least get some attention. Flooding comment sections and streams for content creators would get the word out too. But what's proposed here...is just slactivism. Strikes alone don't accomplish anything, especially when people are still actually paying for the service that they are striking.

    Like, what's basically happening here is people making a bunch of reservations at a restauraunt and paying in advance, and then just not showing up. Sure, the restaurant may look empty, but...you've already paid for the food. The restaurant isn't actually losing anything.

    A strike needs to be accompanied by a campaign to accomplish whatever your goal is. Post on the JP forums. Storm comment threads. Make social media pages, in English and Japanese. Submit reports complaining to SE on their website.

    And the biggest thing, *don't stop.* Keep applying pressure, and eventually the company would have to address it. Not something like this which will in all likelihood just be ignored.
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  4. #1144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Potentially, but Im pretty sure we have had vague statements before about things changing/improving and they all amounted to nothing in the end. I want to be optimistic, but I’m quite jaded now.
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  5. #1145
    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamsC View Post
    Potentially, but Im pretty sure we have had vague statements before about things changing/improving and they all amounted to nothing in the end. I want to be optimistic, but I’m quite jaded now.
    While it is extremely vague at least they are aware of the situation and this small paragraph caught my eye:

    Yoshi-P then reveals that the team will remedy this as Dawntrail and its future updates roll out, "working towards a more fulfilling playing experience" in patch 7.2 and beyond: "We will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs."
    But as you said it could be lipwork, I personally want all classes to be more interesting.
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  6. #1146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    You're assuming that there will be enough people taking part in this strike to make an actual statistical difference in queue times. Let's say you get a thousand people, spread out over all the NA and EU data centers. It's just....not going to make a big difference, sorry.

    Healers definitely need some attention from the dev team, but this just...isn't going to work. I posted earlier that opening a dialogue on the JP side of the forums would at least get some attention. Flooding comment sections and streams for content creators would get the word out too. But what's proposed here...is just slactivism. Strikes alone don't accomplish anything, especially when people are still actually paying for the service that they are striking.

    Like, what's basically happening here is people making a bunch of reservations at a restauraunt and paying in advance, and then just not showing up. Sure, the restaurant may look empty, but...you've already paid for the food. The restaurant isn't actually losing anything.

    A strike needs to be accompanied by a campaign to accomplish whatever your goal is. Post on the JP forums. Storm comment threads. Make social media pages, in English and Japanese. Submit reports complaining to SE on their website.

    And the biggest thing, *don't stop.* Keep applying pressure, and eventually the company would have to address it. Not something like this which will in all likelihood just be ignored.
    That's a fair observation. I suppose if this gets picked up further by content creators and/or other media, this would eventually spark a conversation regarding healers and certainly had SE's attention for once... maybe. Unless SE is very keen to keep ignoring the issue and just say "wait til 7.2" or "wait til 8.0". I'm just tired of waiting, you know.
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  7. #1147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    it's definitely interesting since they said they wouldn't be looking at it till next expansion. but also... post-dawntrail release is not exactly a precise point in time.
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    Last edited by OliviaLugria; 06-12-2024 at 03:32 PM.
    I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.

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  8. #1148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Will believe when I see it.

    It may be good but it may as well just be a PR move to save face due to the bad reception of DT changes
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  9. #1149
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    Like, what's basically happening here is people making a bunch of reservations at a restauraunt and paying in advance, and then just not showing up. Sure, the restaurant may look empty, but...you've already paid for the food. The restaurant isn't actually losing anything.
    You don't understand the goal here. We're not trying to hit the company in their wallet, we're trying to hit the dev team in their metrics.

    Even if only a thousand people out of hundreds of thousands join, that's still a sizable dip in their healer metrics of a thousand people. They'll see that and then they'll start asking why it's happening, that is the goal here.
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  10. #1150
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    There has already been a video put out by one of the media tour invitees about this and he mostly agrees with our points

    If you can’t get the people you invited to a private event because they are healer mains to be excited about healers who are you trying to impress
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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