#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Lorika]

It's fine RDM's probably next in line.

If we can't even emphasize with other jobs getting butchered to hell we all deserve to get it.

Because we already jave so many problems that SE never adressed in years.... And every patch the feeling of being an abandonned job is more an more visible.
RDM, SMN, Healers and Ranged Phys seems to not exist for the Dev. And do you think that most of PCT palyers emphasizes with the others jobs players?
Hell no! now they are crying because of the nerf..... While doesn't even realize that compared to the MCH nerf, or the the hatred for this job from the dev, their is laughable

Why do you think a job “deserves” to have its gameplay ruined just because it does good damage (and spoiler PCT is only really doing mid to low melee damage now)

Their stated aim was to nerf PCT and especially nerf its potential in FRU. They did that…….and ruined the job identity in the process. The identity isn’t “stronger than anyone else”, the identity is painting which is now basically discouraged

My original point was they ruined PCT’s identity, I don’t know why it still being numerically superior to RDM factors into this conversation at all. Would you accept the removal of mana balancing and making the melee combo superficial if it meant you could do melee numbers? If not why should PCT give up its identity because they went overboard with the design of the nerf

Why deserved? for almost a year PCT was the job with highest DPS, really good utility, very mobile.... As for the Gameplay, well, i find it boring and didn't got any fun with it, so i can't really comment on it.

So, yeah, the nerf was deserved. Was it well done? maybe not.
But, now PCT players know how it feel to tbe a SMN, a Ranged Phys, a Healers.... But do they care? probably not.... They crying while still being on TOp DPS wise (yeah PCT is still on top)

[Maltothoris]

Well, I think that sge might get either another dosis buff or the dot might get another buff. It is possible to happen next week but it might happen again after the criterion drops.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The only 'positive' I could draw from the most recent update was the fact they're probably sentient enough to notice AST never need any buffs.

That's a very low bar to clear.

[Supersnow845]

Because we already jave so many problems that SE never adressed in years.... And every patch the feeling of being an abandonned job is more an more visible.
RDM, SMN, Healers and Ranged Phys seems to not exist for the Dev. And do you think that most of PCT palyers emphasizes with the others jobs players?
Hell no! now they are crying because of the nerf..... While doesn't even realize that compared to the MCH nerf, or the the hatred for this job from the dev, their is laughable



Why deserved? for almost a year PCT was the job with highest DPS, really good utility, very mobile.... As for the Gameplay, well, i find it boring and didn't got any fun with it, so i can't really comment on it.

So, yeah, the nerf was deserved. Was it well done? maybe not.
But, now PCT players know how it feel to tbe a SMN, a Ranged Phys, a Healers.... But do they care? probably not.... They crying while still being on TOp DPS wise (yeah PCT is still on top)

Again nobody is crying the job got nerfed, people are annoyed they ruined the job design

You can be annoyed at more than one thing you know. I hate what they have done to healers and I can still be annoyed that PCT was a fun class they ruined with this badly mathed out nerf. I couldn’t care less about how much damage it actually does

Good numbers don’t make up for the job feeling bad to play, if you are so on the side of poor downtrodden healers then the DT AST changes would have shown that

[Azurarok]

Yeah I don't have the impression folks are really complaining about the job balance, even on JP. Many agree it needed the nerf. The core rotations and feel of a job getting watered down/significantly changed by the adjustment is pretty dire (1.5s holy, anyone?), much like how it's affected other jobs over the years. I don't think RDM's really suffered that (yet), thankfully.

Now, folks acting like it's not their problem since it's not their main or something over the years I do have a problem with. People have been sounding the alarms for years so it taking BLM/PCT's destruction for people to admit how bad things are really sucks.

P.S. sorry if I'm kinda being a nuisance here. I've been planning to take a break for the first time in years, and my sub runs out tomorrow so I'm trying to get a few more thoughts in before I lose the ability to post in here.

[ForsakenRoe]

The point of the complaints is, look at any other fan-favourite job. Let's say, WAR. Imagine that SE makes a potency change to the job, that means that pressing 123 combo is more potency on average, than spending gauge on Fell Cleave. You just don't use Fell Cleave at all in this hypothetical.

Now imagine, that some players are saying 'yeh but WAR is still the top DPS of the tanks so why does it matter?' It matters because the filler actions don't feel as good to use as the 'gated' actions, such as gauge spenders, CDs, etc. And if these 'gated' actions aren't worth pressing, the question creeps in, 'why do we even have these actions if we never use them?', eventually leading to a push for their removal or reworking.

PCT isn't just 'Element in Color - The Job', Painting the Motifs is what sets it apart from the other jobs. Now, it's questionable as to whether it's worth it to even paint your Motif in half of the available scenarios. I'm seeing talk of it being 'optimal' to skip painting a Creature Motif if it's an 'odd Motif' (That being, one that doesn't trigger Mog/Madeen to be available) if you're near the end of an encounter and it'd be the last one you get in, and more recently, that it's 'optimal' to just skip your odd-minute Hammer Combo entirely. What on earth are they doing over there

[AmiableApkallu]

What on earth are they doing over there

As a spectator to all this, I wonder if SE is imagining someone who does something like: cycle through the obvious combos, hit shiny buttons when they light up, keep everything else off cooldown as able. I.e., what I do when I want to play -- or feel like I'm playing -- a job's DPS-kit serviceably but not necessarily optimally.

But that'd be strange, because the entire point of these changes is, nominally, to balance the job in content where people do care about and try to work out what's optimal. Little old me who's going to play the job in Duty Finder the same way he always has surely isn't actually the model player SE has in mind...

[Maltothoris]

So having the recent ex, still about the same. The only reqlly heavy parts are escahlons fall 2 and the three shock breaks shoild you be approaching enrage. However, when you get the 740 gear and few mistakes, it is very possible to have enough dps to just outright skip rosebloom 6 which if you reach it, the default strat is to just tank lb it.

[Shialan]

So, how is the strike going?

[Aravell]

So having the recent ex, still about the same. The only reqlly heavy parts are escahlons fall 2 and the three shock breaks shoild you be approaching enrage. However, when you get the 740 gear and few mistakes, it is very possible to have enough dps to just outright skip rosebloom 6 which if you reach it, the default strat is to just tank lb it.

You don't even need tank LB, each cleave only does about 70k, so a critlo deploy, Sacred Soil and Expedient is already enough to live through 2 cleaves.

It's way more value to tank LB the Stock Break spam later (or just melee LB to kill it before that).