#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[CKNovel]

> FRU cleared with No healers
> Look inside
> 4 Paladins

[Supersnow845]

> FRU cleared with No healers
> Look inside
> 4 Paladins

> Tank class
> looks inside
> tankier healer that does more damage than the healer

[HyperiusUltima]

Isn’t this similar to how we had the 3 Tanks and 5 DPS on TOP? It was WAR/PLD/PLD then, but now with PCT I can understand how they can run 4 PLD. The run hinges on PCT’s performance to make up for the damage and push phases, though Healers in general are getting chucked pretty hard. Any other DPS that isn’t PCT would’ve made this probably run into Enrage possibly.

Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.

[Supersnow845]

Isn’t this similar to how we had the 3 Tanks and 5 DPS on TOP? It was WAR/PLD/PLD then, but now with PCT I can understand how they can run 4 PLD. The run hinges on PCT’s performance to make up for the damage and push phases, though Healers in general are getting chucked pretty hard. Any other DPS that isn’t PCT would’ve made this probably run into Enrage possibly.

Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.

It doesn’t even rely on PCT because the two extra tanks are taking the spot of the healers and even with this clemency spamming they are doing more damage than the healers. So they are actually more efficient here than usual purely from a DPS perspective

They just lose out on the healer 1% which adds up to a lot which is why the actual run is slower

[Bonoki]

I had to go find it asap https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1QZNzeNEoQ

For context, I want to mention that this at least took a month longer than it did for TOP. Not that it probably changes anything.

[flowerkatie]

The irony in your point being one of the most valid points despite it being made as a joke.

It amounts to nothing more than a challenge run by people who are practiced and experienced in the game, tandem to calling Dark Souls (or some other intentionally difficult game) too easy because a small sub-set of people beat the game completely naked without dying once when that doesn't change the fact that its merely an outlier and not the normal.

At this point I'm just convinced that people here can't comprehend players who are good at games because half of them haven't done any recent content in difficulty beyond a level-synced Fate on the open world.

[Supersnow845]

The irony in your point being one of the most valid points despite it being made as a joke.

It amounts to nothing more than a challenge run by people who are practiced and experienced in the game, tandem to calling Dark Souls (or some other intentionally difficult game) too easy because a small sub-set of people beat the game completely naked without dying once when that doesn't change the fact that its merely an outlier and not the normal.

At this point I'm just convinced that people here can't comprehend players who are good at games because half of them haven't done any recent content in difficulty beyond a level-synced Fate on the open world.

I loved how you jumped to your own defence and refute points you think we are going to make but none of us have actually said anything other than mildly commenting on its existence

My opinion on this is it doesn’t change the state of healers in the normal game it just shows healing kits and healing design are misaligned with damage dealt. That’s basically the long and short of it, I also said this in ShB so it’s not like it’s entirely based on this (or the TOP) kill

No I can’t do it myself, no PF won’t lock healers out yadda yadda yadda

[flowerkatie]

but none of us have actually said anything other than mildly commenting on its existence [...]

Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.

Lmao

I loved how you jumped to your own defence and refute points you think we are going to make

You mean like this?

Obligatory "It's Done By Highly Skilled Players in A Very Well Coordinated Party, No One Would Normally Do It, What Does it Matter" comment

[Supersnow845]

Lmao



You mean like this?

You mean the one ironic meme comment and the one over dramatic comment

Perish the thought. How will we ever survive

[flowerkatie]

You mean the one ironic meme comment and the one over dramatic comment

Perish the thought. How will we ever survive

So discussion and response isn't allowed because it's "overly dramatic" so that doesn't count in your mind as being a point. And the other is a meme, mine is taken at face value and understood differently.

Very sound basis for discussion in a section called 'General Discussion'