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  1. #10401
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    Dante Ameliev
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    SGE already is a flexi healer

    People focus so strongly on the fact that SGE’s GCD’s are shields but beyond that SGE barely has more mitigation than AST (kerechole is up twice as often as CU, holos+panhaima roughly equals neutral sect+sunsign) and is drowning in pure healing

    SCH is really the only one that actively weaponises shields but it’s also drowning in free healing, just as WHM is really the only one that feels like a pure healer but its lack of shields acts to its detriment

    If you removed pure healing from SCH you could basically right there turn the meta into “anything you want”
    i think you mistaken me a bit. with flexi i mean that you have something to swap so one stance for beeing more of a mit / barrier class and one with a disgusting output of pure healing a bit what the astro been earlier
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  2. #10402
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante131 View Post
    i think you mistaken me a bit. with flexi i mean that you have something to swap so one stance for beeing more of a mit / barrier class and one with a disgusting output of pure healing a bit what the astro been earlier
    Sorry i don’t mean I don’t agree with your point I just mean it’s hard to implement a flex system when 3 out of 4 healers just do everything
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #10403
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I feel the same way. Lv78 traits on Soil back in ShB, anybody? I had that moment: “Why is this trait exists on a BARRIER Healer??”
    What I found funny was that when it first introduced asylum was still 6 yalm while soil was 8. Then in 5.1, they tried to lessen the advantage of soil by making asylum 8 yalm and making noct collective damage mit 20 seconds and reducing the cd from 90 to 60 seconds.
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  4. #10404
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    FRU got cleared with no healers
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  5. #10405
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    FRU got cleared with no healers
    I had to go find it asap https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1QZNzeNEoQ
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  6. #10406
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Obligatory "It's Done By Highly Skilled Players in A Very Well Coordinated Party, No One Would Normally Do It, What Does it Matter" comment
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  7. #10407
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    Obligatory "It's Done By Highly Skilled Players in A Very Well Coordinated Party, No One Would Normally Do It, What Does it Matter" comment
    There’s already 500 of them in mainsub you are 3 hours behind
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #10408
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Clearly the problem lies on PLD’s Cover and PCT, right guys? :P
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  9. #10409
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Ooops all paladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  10. #10410
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    Character
    Guardian Angel
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    My main is healer too and I feel the game is so boring and repetitive that I often find myself falling asleep during missions... I didn't have this in the past where the later dungeons had bigger mobs which made me work and which made it fun since it allowed me to show I was more competent then most... now it all feels so... average...
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