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    I understand why people are striking over this but like Can I not get a healer that refuses to heal? I'm honestly heated over healers that can't keep the party alive and allow the entire party and their mom to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    I understand why people are striking over this but like Can I not get a healer that refuses to heal? I'm honestly heated over healers that can't keep the party alive and allow the entire party and their mom to die.
    Maybe give them advice if they're receptive. Or vote dismiss that healer and wait for another if they're actively walling the party from clearing.

    Such healers are byproduct of both developer and community pardoning the "below-mediocrity" of healer quality in DFs from various factors for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Maybe give them advice if they're receptive. Or vote dismiss that healer and wait for another if they're actively walling the party from clearing.

    Such healers are byproduct of both developer and community pardoning the "below-mediocrity" of healer quality in DFs from various factors for years.
    I play solo and my biggest pet peeve is that multiple people have to agree and if it's already a premade + me I'm automatically in the wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    I understand why people are striking over this but like Can I not get a healer that refuses to heal? I'm honestly heated over healers that can't keep the party alive and allow the entire party and their mom to die.
    It's kind of the end result of Square driving people who want to heal out of the role that those healers become more common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    It's kind of the end result of Square driving people who want to heal out of the role that those healers become more common.
    probably true. Most healers who play healer nowdays just want the benefit of the fast queue time. I for myself made challenges for me to see how much I can do while a fight, but i knew i have to heal the party or they will die. Well people who dont care and just want a fast queue time and then spamming glare the hole dungeon forget that they are actually a healer. Long story short healers nowdays are split into people who actually want healing which is in the name and people who want to do dmg with small queue times. There are 2 solutions make enemys hit so hard that healing is neccesarry and the dps healer will drop it like in p8s or expand the grp size to 5 / 10 make one support dps role and create dungeons for the roles. example Boss X starts casting big AoE and spawning 3 towers 2 have to be dpsed down one have to be healed at top. i dont know maybe its just me but i would like content like this even more then just spamming glare while Assize is more then eough to heal my party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    I understand why people are striking over this but like Can I not get a healer that refuses to heal? I'm honestly heated over healers that can't keep the party alive and allow the entire party and their mom to die.
    Healer gameplay loop is such that they are probably just brain afk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    I understand why people are striking over this but like Can I not get a healer that refuses to heal? I'm honestly heated over healers that can't keep the party alive and allow the entire party and their mom to die.
    if the developers make the role so braindead and boring that people who feel no responsibility can pick up the job and get quick queue times to fill a spot, this is the type of people you get.

    if you have 2 or maybe three buttons that are dps and tHE entire rest of the kit is for healing.... And nothing ELSE, AND THEY REFUSE TO HEAL? according to SE, they made the job right.. so whats the problem?

    the problem is obviously... that anyone who wants to have fun in their job.. would play dps or tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    AND THEY REFUSE TO HEAL? according to SE, they made the job right.. so whats the problem?
    Gameplay disruption, griefing. Report as it's a bannable offense. You can tone down the dooming as it doesn't help with the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharknado View Post
    Gameplay disruption, griefing. Report as it's a bannable offense. You can tone down the dooming as it doesn't help with the problem.
    it is completely griefing, but people still do it so I doubt they are being reported. its not dooming to say that this is how the role has been designed by SE. because.. it is.

    the problem is the people who are doing only dps as a healer. thats who SE designed it for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    it is completely griefing, but people still do it so I doubt they are being reported. its not dooming to say that this is how the role has been designed by SE. because.. it is.

    the problem is the people who are doing only dps as a healer. thats who SE designed it for...
    You are dooming. Average DF run will have a lot of healing and speedruns aren't that common with randoms - maybe if you get a dream-team for level 100 dungeon resulting in no need to GCD a heal through the entire super quick run. I spammed a lot of dungeons to level few healer and tank jobs and the only healer problems were sprout healers relatively new to burst aoe damage or some mechanics or a rare, but still present cure I healer in EW or DT content. And that's just dungeons.

    Healers have a meta problem of what makes them fun/un-fun to play. The game isn't imploding today, it's rotting slowly through patches and expansions.
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