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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
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    Yeah, I recognize the diagram is showing just the "opener" with the pot at the beginning, but it's the interpretation I'm getting at. The claim being made by people with that graphic is that making the DPS aspect of healers simpler is somehow this horrible travesty that can't possibly be a good thing. I'm simply pointing out that for most of the time in most of the fights in most of the (typical) content, that graphic doesn't show at all what a typical Healer is actually doing. Mixing in the variety of heal spells typically needed in a random DF group (aka what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase actually does) would show that a typical Healer is in fact casting a wide variety of spells during the fight, which the graphic implies is not happening.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Yeah, I recognize the diagram is showing just the "opener" with the pot at the beginning, but it's the interpretation I'm getting at. The claim being made by people with that graphic is that making the DPS aspect of healers simpler is somehow this horrible travesty that can't possibly be a good thing. I'm simply pointing out that for most of the time in most of the fights in most of the (typical) content, that graphic doesn't show at all what a typical Healer is actually doing. Mixing in the variety of heal spells typically needed in a random DF group (aka what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase actually does) would show that a typical Healer is in fact casting a wide variety of spells during the fight, which the graphic implies is not happening.
    But that’s the thing. The oGCD’s don’t substitute for the loss of complexity because we press them less than we pressed old healing skills like rouse or succor and our DPS rotation is neutered

    We went from about 60/40 DPS/healing button presses where the DPS was split across 10 skills to 80/20 where the DPS is 2 skills

    Occasional oGCD heal presses don’t substitute the lost complexity at all
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Yeah, I recognize the diagram is showing just the "opener" with the pot at the beginning, but it's the interpretation I'm getting at. The claim being made by people with that graphic is that making the DPS aspect of healers simpler is somehow this horrible travesty that can't possibly be a good thing. I'm simply pointing out that for most of the time in most of the fights in most of the (typical) content, that graphic doesn't show at all what a typical Healer is actually doing. Mixing in the variety of heal spells typically needed in a random DF group (aka what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase actually does) would show that a typical Healer is in fact casting a wide variety of spells during the fight, which the graphic implies is not happening.
    sorry, not sure what version of the game you are playing, but the "wide variety" of the spells I am using seem to be 21111111 wash... rinse... repeat.

    I suppose just to fit your categorization of this wide variety, I could put glare on 4 different buttons, and dia on 2 or 3.... that would encompass a "wide variety" of buttons...
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