#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Silver-Strider]

Fabulous is a fine response. Also healers conplain they are bored then complain when they need to heal...

Healing is equally boring because, outside of SCH, the other healers don't really require any real thought behind them. Cure 2, Helios, etc are all flavorless vanilla heals that you don't really have any interaction with, apart from 1-2 skills that buff how much they heal so it's not particularly engaging. After a point, it just becomes more cost effective to forgo healing and rezzing someone that refuses to do mechanics.

[alfarini]

Today almost me hung up healing.
I was doing a low level dungeon with some level 100 VPR.

The guy wasn't doing any mechanics and didn't make any effort to avoid AOE... After a while i asked him to do it.
The answer was "fabulous" : who care you will heal me.

After that the only "healing" he got was rez....He got peeved and began to becoming agressive.
i answered to him that i'm not a heal bot and he should be carefull to not make the healer angry... He left and was very quickly replaced by a very good SAM.

This is becoming absurd.... Between entitled DPS, Tank thinking they are invicible (Except DRK ^^), and the overall lower skill level and politeness.... It's becomming rather bad to be healer.

ok fine they stood in a few mechs, they could have survived had you done your job, theirs is damage. yours it to heal, petty and low for you to just not heal them and play your part of the group properly. telling someone to "be careful to not make a healer angry" is classic healer toxic god complex. neither of you were a team player in this situation and im not defending the DPS at all here, but you could have been the bigger person and not be petty about it and just say "we'll be better off as a group if we work together". but naw you stooped just as low as the DPS, no sympathy for you from me.

[Azurarok]

There's a difference between taking hits from getting too greedy (it's hard not to with Melee or Caster) vs showing no effort to avoid damage and acting like it's not their responsibility when asked.

I won't blame the healer for returning the disrespect. There's no reason to enable that kind of behavior.

[BunnyQueen]

this should be taken as proof they don listen or dont care and at this point i dont know whats worse

Both are just as bad.

I actually went to WoW and I am having my mind blown at how engaging healing is, it is a lot of fun. This is what is confusing me. How is it that square can't make the role of healing engaging and fun for those who enjoy the role of playing healer and support. The healer role in FF14 is also missing a big part of what makes healing fun in most similar games. The healing and supporting, I don't mean supporting by slapping down damage but by having ways of buffing your allies or debuffing enemies. Square has taken everything from one role and spread it out so much among other roles that the role of healer just isn't needed.

[CaptainLagbeard]

They gave pictos a group heal? Wtf

Well it's a 400 Potency heal on a 2 min CD, as it's tied to Starry Muse.

[alfarini]

I won't blame the healer for returning the disrespect. There's no reason to enable that kind of behavior.

and so the toxic cycle continues. you say there is no reason to enable that behavior but you just said its ok to return disrespect and essentially enable that behavior. are you just a hypocrite? or is it simply bias because they were a healer in this instance. hmmmm makes me wonder.

[Shialan]

There's a difference between taking hits from getting too greedy (it's hard not to with Melee or Caster) vs showing no effort to avoid damage and acting like it's not their responsibility when asked.

I won't blame the healer for returning the disrespect. There's no reason to enable that kind of behavior.

Nah, there isn't. If you don't heal to "teach" the DPS a lesson, you are not doing your job and should get reported.

[CaptainLagbeard]

If someone dies too much, it's ok to just leave them on the ground.

They're not going to contribute all that much between all their deaths and it's just not worth the MP (if you're not a WHM and can't Thin Air it).

[Connor]

If someone dies too much, it's ok to just leave them on the ground.

See, I may be alone in this but outside of some extreme situations (I.e someone repeatedly jumps off side of the arena) I don’t think this is ever ‘ok’.

Whether it’s because of skill or connection issues or whatever I don’t think ‘just giving up’ on someone because they hit a certain amount of deaths is ever the right way forward. I mean, I can completely understand doing what you can to help them and they die anyway lol, even healers have their limits. As a Scholar I can’t say I generally have MP issues even when raising unless I get bored and use Seraphism to start spamming Accession ( “you WILL be healed!!!! …and I’ll look ugly as hell doing it”. Though I do meld piety because idk masochism I guess lol.

But still, I feel like even if someone’s doing it to be a ‘troll’, making a conscious decision to refuse to heal them further isn’t going to solve anything, and it isn’t going to ‘teach them’ some sort of lesson. If anything it’s just going to make these players even less likely to be ‘team players’ (i.e “if I die too much healers refuse to raise me why should I do anything to make their life easier?”)

[Azurarok]

No yeah if a player's actively giving an effort to try to stay alive and failing at it I want to encourage them to keep trying. I love using RDM since I can help with that arguably more than a healer could.

But there are people out there that do act in bad faith and I'm just not gonna tolerate that.