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  1. #1931
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I just referenced my casts for Dragonsong's Reprise (Ultimate) and I spent 58% of my GCD casts on Broil IV. Take that as you will.
    Add In biolysis and you are at about 70% already
    (19)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  2. #1932
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    Terro De'borel-skies
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    Rogue Lv 90
    I want to be apart of it. I hate that people accuse us of only being like a glare mage etc but i have nothing to really do besides over heal or spam 1 button. And with jobs having a lot of self sustain and tanks having 100 petcent aggro..as long as people dodge they really can clear content without a healer and it sucks that your skills can really only come into play in savage or ultimate which people are actively trying to find ways to solo heal it and clear with no healer. Its gotten to a point where it feels like a dead role.
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  3. #1933
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    No saying “just shut up and quit” on those threads is just as stupid because that person is leaving and giving the last of their feedback, that’s a time people should be even more strongly acknowledging them
    I agree but that's not how everyone sees things.

    For many, perception is reality. That's all I've been trying to do here - point out that how things get phrased will affect how others react to those things.

    It's not helping that you have some "strikers" making statements that contradict statements from others. People being people, many are going to focus on the more negative sounding takes instead of on the general message. They're going to act hostilely in return.

    None of you should be surprised when it happens. Better to not even comment on the hostile posts.

    Yes, I know I'm bumping this to give it more exposure. I've said before that I agree that something needs to be done about design to improve the game experience for those who are healing mains. I agree with some of the stated reasons why the problems exist and disagree with others.

    I still think that an actual strike is not the correct approach to getting problems fixed. As one of the JP posters pointed out earlier, strikes are not seen favorably in Japan and it is Japanese developers that you have to convince to make changes.
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  4. #1934
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Good luck Healers Union
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    (Signature portrait by Amaipetisu)

    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

  5. #1935
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    Rin Katsuyuki
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirinoodles_ View Post
    as a hardcore player, i find this issue in every content. savage and ultimates included but lesser content is more predominant. savages and ultimates are kinda hard to speak upon because imo it's gonna depend on encounter design. which is why i don't think we need a whole dps rotation but adding more dps spells you can optimize depending on encounters would be very nice
    That seems reasonable.
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  6. #1936
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    Sugar And'spice
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    The sad thing is when people quit and can't get a chance to explain why the developers don't get any real feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  7. #1937
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    I still think that an actual strike is not the correct approach to getting problems fixed. As one of the JP posters pointed out earlier, strikes are not seen favorably in Japan and it is Japanese developers that you have to convince to make changes.
    well then, give options.

    you say this isnt the way to do it... there are reasonable, well thought out posts regarding this that have been tried, with examples of the issue and potential things that could be tried to resolve it. seemingly ignored.

    so, what is your way? just keep playing a healer main and wish for pink skies and roses that things will somehow improve? we tried that too.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  8. #1938
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    We have tried giving feedback, offering suggestions, proving everything wrong with healers for years, all to not be heard and watching how the problems were left to fester to the point of having our entire role become unnecesary, devoid of depth, complexity, synergy and identity. At this point the "strike" is our only option left to have even the slightest chance of being heard and have the role problems acknowledged and addresed.

    After all as customers we are in our right to stop playing something we don't want to. "If you don't like it, don't play it" as the SE white knights would say
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  9. #1939
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    As Waxsaw said genuinely what are we supposed to do

    We have soapboxed in here for 8 years now, we are being ignored, what else are we supposed to do
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #1940
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    Pepper Oni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    As Waxsaw said genuinely what are we supposed to do

    We have soapboxed in here for 8 years now, we are being ignored, what else are we supposed to do
    Play another role and hope the queue times hurt them hard enough to change the game.
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