#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

Big, wall-to-wall pulls are annoying when the tank does not telegraph they are going to do that. Especially for people who just picked up conjurer, and get blindsided in sastasha with a tank who pulls the entire floor and then runs off.

Satasha in particular is a funny case because of clam skip. That dungeon actively encourages just hitting the wall despite the lack of AoE. It also needs to be the first tank dungeon too so it can't hit super hard and you can have only Rampart for mit if you're still leveling.

As you progress through ARR, it's difficult to wall pull Brayflox, it's really difficult to wall pull Stone Vigil (those ice spirits have hands). There's something lost at higher levels that makes walls normal and [looks at Raw Intuition, looks at healer kits being 80~% heals] I wonder what could do that? They stop letting us manage how much we pull too by putting up unnecessary walls so we can't even try to push our bloated kits and now people queue healer to skip in queue, not because, you know, they enjoy healer.

[MarniDawg]

You obviously can attempt to do this to get some attention to your concerns, but I don't think this will really do anything in the long run other than slow up the df queue for a bit. First of all if you're serious about some sort of strike you should probably be doing it even in early access. You should probably also continue to do it until you have some sort of a response from yoshiP or the company. Otherwise you've only made a tiny inconvenience to the player base without really having a lasting impact. I bring this up because your original post doesn't specify when the strike ends.

Why aren't you starting the strike on early access? Is it so you can get through the story and then sit back and wait? It just doesn't speak to me that you all really prioritize having the classes changed without playing the game in the mean time. In the end it speaks of a weak will that won't be able to accomplish much. A shame really because I agree with you all that healers could definitely use a bit more love on the job side of things.

[Zadood]

Any artists in the thread?

You mean the art of Yshtola dress in bikini chilling at seaside beach in protest of healerstrike? I could see that...

[hynaku]

Just glad I don't main healer anymore. Healer was once fun to play but now it's a boring job to play.

[PeppermintBrown]

The arrogance of healers. To state with one breath that dps and tanks shouldn't get the occasional support or self healing so that soloing or a healer dying in a dungeon isn't an instant wipe. Yet on the other hand, you demand more active dps, demanding to dip into our role. Your 'strike' will go nowhere. It won't even be a blip on the duty finder radar. The average player will not notice your efforts. And it will all be forgotten as one by one, you all realize how silly you're being. Either going back to your healing or realizing just how few of you there are outside of the forum echo chambers.

You are not the tsunami. You are a drop in the ocean.

[Supersnow845]

The arrogance of healers. To state with one breath that dps and tanks shouldn't get the occasional support or self healing so that soloing or a healer dying in a dungeon isn't an instant wipe. Yet on the other hand, you demand more active dps, demanding to dip into our role. Your 'strike' will go nowhere. It won't even be a blip on the duty finder radar. The average player will not notice your efforts. And it will all be forgotten as one by one, you all realize how silly you're being. Either going back to your healing or realizing just how few of you there are outside of the forum echo chambers.

You are not the tsunami. You are a drop in the ocean.

“Occasional support or self healing”

The tanks are better healers than we are

And we don’t want to do more DPS, we want to do our current DPS in more interesting ways

Maybe don’t insult us if you don’t even know what we are arguing for

[Katish]

The arrogance of healers. To state with one breath that dps and tanks shouldn't get the occasional support or self healing so that soloing or a healer dying in a dungeon isn't an instant wipe. Yet on the other hand, you demand more active dps, demanding to dip into our role. Your 'strike' will go nowhere. It won't even be a blip on the duty finder radar. The average player will not notice your efforts. And it will all be forgotten as one by one, you all realize how silly you're being. Either going back to your healing or realizing just how few of you there are outside of the forum echo chambers.

You are not the tsunami. You are a drop in the ocean.

So using your logic against you of, "It's fine for tanks to gain party healing and self healing to the point of replacing healers"...okay, so it should also be fine that healers get the tank treatment and be able to fill in the tank role while also having a similar dps kit to the tanks. Again, your words not mine. I don't want that, but if you can't see the hypocrisy, I am not sure what to tell you...

[Cheapshot]

I’m a former SCH main. Played it from ARR till Endwalker. I was staggered by what they did to it in Shadowbrigners and endlessly frustrated by the ongoing lack of identity in the role. Abilities and theming very inconsistent. I was enjoying myself so little that I switched to maining SMN and haven’t touched healing since. I don’t even know what’s going on with it lately with all the religious themed stuff randomly for the classes higher level abilities. So strange. I’ve been really worried about the state and future of this game that I love. So many things seem rushed or poorly thought out, and I often find myself scratching my head trying to understand the decisions being made in recent years. I have a lot of respect for this development team and I think they do a lot right that other developers get wrong. Very frequently they correct course or implement things that really impress me. I hope they can do so going forward and make sure this game lasts another 10 years or more.

For what it’s worth, I wont be healing in 7.0 unless substantial change comes to the game.

[Gemina]

Well, if some one is ignorant of or willing to selfishly ignore the fact that healing is fun for a lot of people,

This is a copout and does not address that there are fundamental issues with job design in general. A car that is leaking oil will still you get you from point A to point B, and it will keep running so long as you keep putting oil in it. This is FFXIV job design in a nutshell.

And yes, it is true that these issues exist across all roles and jobs in FFXIV. However, the difference here is no role is encroached upon as much a the healer role. Like, it doesn't even come close. Imagine a game where DPS constantly rip enmity from the tank, and the effort to resolve the issue is to just give that job more mitigation, self-sustain, and even double downing on that job's ability to acquire enmity. Imagine if healers were given more dynamic DPS rotations than the DPS jobs in the game, where they exist outside the 2-minute meta and not only are their rotations rewarding and dynamic, they also have all that support ability stacked on top of it. That is what is happening to the healer role, and it is happening whether a player is having fun with the jobs or not.

Then there is this BS argument about waiting to see what 7.2 or even 8.0 brings. To not cast judgment until we can see what they've cooked up. For the sake of argument, let's say that this content shakes things up, and the content is absolutely amazing. Great! Right? Until roulettes, relic quests, leveling, etc. sends us right back into the content that precedes it. Yoshi has stated that he would like to work on raid design first, which means he would rather design jobs around encounter design, opposed to the opposite. My question is why are not both taken into mind simultaneously? Seems to me that this would be the best approach to avoid the dev's massive lack of foresight.

[PercibelTheren]

The arrogance of healers. To state with one breath that dps and tanks shouldn't get the occasional support or self healing so that soloing or a healer dying in a dungeon isn't an instant wipe. Yet on the other hand, you demand more active dps, demanding to dip into our role. Your 'strike' will go nowhere. It won't even be a blip on the duty finder radar. The average player will not notice your efforts. And it will all be forgotten as one by one, you all realize how silly you're being. Either going back to your healing or realizing just how few of you there are outside of the forum echo chambers.

You are not the tsunami. You are a drop in the ocean.

Nice work completely strawmanning what people are saying. Nobody is saying tanks and DPS should have zero sustain. What people are saying is that currently, there is way too much, especially on tanks. If you can straight up do zero healing if your party's healer is Warrior, something is wrong. Somehow, SE are doubling down on this and giving tanks even MORE healing, further making healers unneccessary.

Is tanks having a 1/2/3 combo "dipping into DPS"? Because if not, you are being blatantly hypocritical here.

Besides, what else should we be asking for, then? If we ask to be able to heal more, we get shouted down. Either by people saying "you want to take healing away from other jobs" or by people claiming that requiring healers to be awake would hurt casuals. Great, if we can't have more opportunities to heal, we ask for more ways to DPS. But people don't want us to ask for those, either. What CAN we ask for, then?