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  1. #1211
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Alphinaud as well.


    He ditched SCH to become SGE... now he's slowly becoming a DPS. Oh the irony.
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  2. #1212
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ClayyLmao View Post
    Sure, and I'd agree with you if I didn't see so many people in this thread asking for kit to be taken away from other jobs so that they have an excuse to heal more. Which is demanding other people lose fun pieces of kit so that the healers can spend more time doing something they should already be doing quite a bit of. And the only examples of things I'm being shown is High level players pulling off crazy clears on current content, or bald streamer man farting his way through the easiest tier of content in the game without a healer.

    I'm all for Healers getting more interesting DPS rotations or OGCD Damage options, those are good solutions to the problem.


    I was referring to Healers as the people that play them, not the jobs. i.e. The vast majority of people who play healer are willing to put up with what is in reality a very minor issue for the sake of the enjoyment of everyone else in the party, and to respect everyone's time.
    A CD isn’t well designed if to get your fun it robs another role of their core design

    What if holy applied a stun that never dropped off. You are “tanking” but really you are just playing a crap DPS because the healer has stunned the mobs into being totally useless. Would you like that? If you didn’t would you like to hear the excuse “oh but I like holy just change the tanks”

    It’s a stupid argument, the same can be applied to shake it off
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #1213
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    A few of us asked questions on the japanese forums regarding their stance on the healer design, and it seems that they indeed like this type of braindead 111 gameplay. It does not bode well...... And it might explain why we've been stuck with this bs design for years... They might very well just not care at all about international players.
    Either that, or this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    There is a chance that you're speaking to the new healer mains on JP who jumped on the boat precisely because it's easy.

    I play on JP and this is just my anecdote, but I have noticed some of the good JP healers I've cohealed with in SB are now playing DPS/tanks in PF. It's possible that their good healers quit the role much earlier than some here and the replacements are the people you see posting now[...]
    (11)

    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  4. #1214
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    Erzaa's Avatar
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayyLmao View Post
    I was referring to Healers as the people that play them, not the jobs. i.e. The vast majority of people who play healer are willing to put up with what is in reality a very minor issue for the sake of the enjoyment of everyone else in the party, and to respect everyone's time.
    Alright, misunderstood, sorry. But still, that's all the strikers are asking for, and the strike is just a way to put pressure on the devs to review and make some changes. And I don't see the harm in dropping a role that you're not enjoying playing, and making your grievances known.
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  5. #1215
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Either that, or this:
    Yeah true, but the difference with our forums was so striking and appalling that I tilted and just left given the responses they were giving.
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  6. #1216
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    Laurence Ironraven
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    As a Dark Knight, what did we ever do to deseve this?
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  7. #1217
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    A few of us asked questions on the japanese forums regarding their stance on the healer design, and it seems that they indeed like this type of braindead 111 gameplay. It does not bode well...... And it might explain why we've been stuck with this bs design for years... They might very well just not care at all about international players.
    They gave valid concerns even though they partially agree with us. I dont see why you're all to negative?
    Though, I guess you got a bit icky cause you got called out for your rather aggressive post in the jp thread?
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  8. #1218
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    Percibel Theren
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ClayyLmao View Post
    "Erm, healers don't have massive egos, we just attempt to go on strike when we don't like that we're no longer able to control the entire party by refusing to heal people that don't play in the very specific way we permit"
    Uhh..what? How is asking for changes to make the healer jobs less braindead "refusing to heal people that don't play in the very specific way we permit"? Do you need some reading comprehension classes or something?
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  9. #1219
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Lau298 View Post
    As a Dark Knight, what did we ever do to deseve this?
    To walk the path is to suffer. To sacrifice. Justice demands no less.
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    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

  10. #1220
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Uhh..what? How is asking for changes to make the healer jobs less braindead "refusing to heal people that don't play in the very specific way we permit"? Do you need some reading comprehension classes or something?
    I think someone is running disinformation somewhere. There's been a few people in the last 24 hours who came in and talked as if we were planning to queue in on healers and grief people.
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