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    Yenrz's Avatar
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    Yenrz Zvezda
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Adding to this thread for posterity. AST's kit is ridiculously bloated with heals now and with the tank mitigation buffs on top of that, what will I be needing to use all of these new heals on??? Holy hell I'd hope that they drastically rack up heal checks in content to compensate for all these new tools but I very much doubt it, especially with what we know from the media tour.
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    I will admit, Cole did make a good point where the no healer clear was slower than a normal comp, but it still doesn't change the facts that healing is so mind-numbingly braindead and job themes are in the toilet. I do hope Xeno catches onto it, even if he does act dismissive towards our cause, it will still give the movement a lot of traction.
    I think he made good points, but I also think he kind of missed the point in regards to feeling unnecessary in content vs the healer-less ultimate clear:

    The concern in regards to feeling unnecessary stems from how much sustain non-healers have access to now relative to how little outgoing damage we see in normal content like roulettes. There are already players who have stopped doing roulettes with random players and opted to have premade groups, and since this is becoming easier to accomplish, this trend may pick up further. But even when that isn't the case, it kind of makes you feel like a burden to the team--that your position on the party is slowing them down when the healing requirements are as relaxed as they are.

    The ultimate clear is a different topic and is more a response to the statement Yoshi P made in response to a player's question about the direction of healer design. We want to be engaged with our role, and his response was to go play ultimate if we want to be engaged, which doesn't address the main point, and also isn't even all that true. The fact that TOP was cleared without healers, regardless of how suboptimal it was, shows that even ultimate does not challenge the overwhelming power that our healing kits offer if even Clemency and Vercure were enough to clear. If Ultimate were supposed to engage healers with more healing challenge, that shouldn't be possible for them to keep up with the demand for healing. And that's supposedly the content where we're allowed to have fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yenrz View Post
    Adding to this thread for posterity. AST's kit is ridiculously bloated with heals now and with the tank mitigation buffs on top of that, what will I be needing to use all of these new heals on??? Holy hell I'd hope that they drastically rack up heal checks in content to compensate for all these new tools but I very much doubt it, especially with what we know from the media tour.
    It blows my mind that Astrologian has four single target mitigation cooldowns. Like, sir... We don't even need two. One cooldown is enough.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    It blows my mind that Astrologian has four single target mitigation cooldowns. Like, sir... We don't even need two. One cooldown is enough.
    WHM has 6 AoE heals and that is if you don't count Asylum and Plenary Indulgence. Not to mention three Afflatus Solace charges and now two Tetragrammaton charges and one Benediction in a pear tree.
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