#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Niroken]

For the sake of discussion, let's assume you could get the average player to join in on the strike. If healers truly aren't needed in content, why would a strike even get noticed? Players can pre-form their parties to avoid the Duty Finder role restrictions after all.

If players end up in pre-form parties to avoid the queue times then the situation has become serious enough that the developers would need to take action as you cannot ignore the issue anymore. Now it's an issue that effects ALL roles instead of just healer. So even if you run content without healers it's a massive neon sign for all to see.

[KageTokage]

I've also had the opposite where a tank couldn't manage cooldowns and died. So, which is it? Tank or healer issue?

Everyone has responsibility but the healer can carry a group the hardest overall due to how overkill the current healing output is.

...That said, I'm still faulting the tank if I'm having to aggressively spam heals to keep them alive due to lack of mit usage and/or terrible gear because they're slowing the run down by denying me the ability to DPS.

I don't mind healing more when it's necessary for organic reasons, not ones inflicted by players being bad.

[ty_taurus]

I've also had the opposite where a tank couldn't manage cooldowns and died. So, which is it? Tank or healer issue?

The reality is, some players will make mistakes. Some players have not yet learned the game well enough or understand the mechanics enough to make the right decisions. But blaming that on all tanks or all healers, or the design of tanks or healers is narrow-sighted. This is a game. That means you're going to fail once in a while, whether by your own hand or someone else's. Yet many players in FFXIV treat failure like it's a flaw in game design--that if the jobs were actually well designed, failure would be impossible, but that's insane.

[Gemina]

Well, if it fizzles, it won't be because a lack of me trying. Made a more private twitter so that I can try and help spread the hashtag. I'd do it on my regular twitter but I would rather not reveal too much of my personal identity, not because I think it's problematic or anything, I just feel more safe that way. Do we want to make a discord or something?

Anyone is welcome to start a Discord to support the strike if they would like. I'm a sprout when it comes to Discord, so someone with more experience with it would probably be better suited to initiate it. I'll definitely join it, for sure.

[Aravell]

Get your tanks to stop using their active defensive and healing abilities. I was healing a tank that used 0 defensives through Tower of Zot the other night. Can't remember the last time I had to use so many GCD heals.

So your solution to one role being worthless is to enforce everyone else to play badly?

Whatever floats your boat, but I'm going to just continue asking the dev team to actually design content worth playing a healer in.

[Sensui]

The reality is, some players will make mistakes. Some players have not yet learned the game well enough or understand the mechanics enough to make the right decisions. But blaming that on all tanks or all healers, or the design of tanks or healers is narrow-sighted. This is a game. That means you're going to fail once in a while, whether by your own hand or someone else's. Yet many players in FFXIV treat failure like it's a flaw in game design--that if the jobs were actually well designed, failure would be impossible, but that's insane.

Agreed. I just feel like this dramatic response is just that.. drama for the sake of it.

[Doopliss]

I'm glad to see so many people actually in agreement with this. +1ing this thread.

Healer design objectively plummeted in Shadowbringers and somehow managed to only sink further down since. And while the lack of any meaningful (or fun-looking...) job changes in this expansion are all perplexing, the fact that they not only kept the overabundance of self-sustain on Tanks but also increased it is downright baffling. And AoE healing was added to more DPS? For what reason?

Even as somebody who has raided since Coil through to Abyssos (the long-term group of friends I've played with and myself all decided it became too dull to continue to Anabaseios), raiders have some of the most godawful opinions in this game. I sincerely wish all Tanks a very Deleted self-sustain and DPS a very Undeleted positionals.

Healers shouldn't have to suffer the vast majority of content being sleep-inducing so that it's easier for the savage and ultimate raiders' numbers to go up. The more I see how things are turning out, the more that late June release seems less and less worth it...

[OliviaLugria]

Anyone is welcome to start a Discord to support the strike if they would like. I'm a sprout when it comes to Discord, so someone with more experience with it would probably be better suited to initiate it. I'll definitely join it, for sure.

I am working on it, don't want it to be completely empty when people get here XD

[Niroken]

Agreed. I just feel like this dramatic response is just that.. drama for the sake of it.

What would you suggest that hasn't already been tried before?

[Aravell]

Honestly, I haven't been playing healers for a long time now, I didn't even bother clearing Anabaseios and TOP because I found the role just so unbearably boring.

But since people are starting a strike, I'll join it too. I was going to level healers to 100 and just leave them, but now I'll just not level healers through dungeons. I'll just level them through Frontlines roulette and Crystalline Conflict.