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  1. #8471
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    I don't think Tanks will be happy about losing their self-sustain capabilities. But they also do need to lose them for the health of the healer role. So, a middleground solution could be this: All selfhealing on Tanks, is replaced by barrier effects.

    So, a WAR has Bloodwhetting, Equilibrium, Storm's Path (lol) and Shake it Off. Bloodwhetting can apply a layered shield (ala Panhaima) to the WAR each time it delivers an attack, with a short duration (say, 6s). Thus, hitting 10 enemies with an AOE still gives a crazy amount of EHP (by applying 10 layers of shield per attack), but it doesn't magically fix the WAR's wounds. Instead, it 'protects' the WAR (which is the tank's 'thing', protection instead of healing). Equilibrium could have its Healing portion still, but the HOT trait can be changed to a layered shield (5 stacks of 300p, for example), or it could have the initial hit also be a shield too, for way more defensive capability. Shake it Off is, from the level you get it, to level 85, more total healing than CURE 3. How does that make sense? It gained the HOT effect due to 'SIO struggling to find effectiveness in protecting the party from damage over time effects'. So, if that 500p HOT were instead converted to 5 stacks of 100p shields, it'd still 'help the party against DOTs', but without taking the healer's job away from them as much.

    Then, of course, Souleater/Storm's Path/PLD spells would apply a barrier to the tank instead of a heal. GNB already kinda does this with Brutal Shell (being half healing and half barrier) and it opens up the design option for more interesting interactions between said shield and other actions. For example, GNB's Brutal Shell can be given to an ally by using Heart of Stone/Corundum on that ally
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  2. #8472
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    I don't think Tanks will be happy about losing their self-sustain capabilities. But they also do need to lose them for the health of the healer role. So, a middleground solution could be this: All selfhealing on Tanks, is replaced by barrier effects.

    So, a WAR has Bloodwhetting, Equilibrium, Storm's Path (lol) and Shake it Off. Bloodwhetting can apply a layered shield (ala Panhaima) to the WAR each time it delivers an attack, with a short duration (say, 6s). Thus, hitting 10 enemies with an AOE still gives a crazy amount of EHP (by applying 10 layers of shield per attack), but it doesn't magically fix the WAR's wounds. Instead, it 'protects' the WAR (which is the tank's 'thing', protection instead of healing). Equilibrium could have its Healing portion still, but the HOT trait can be changed to a layered shield (5 stacks of 300p, for example), or it could have the initial hit also be a shield too, for way more defensive capability. Shake it Off is, from the level you get it, to level 85, more total healing than CURE 3. How does that make sense? It gained the HOT effect due to 'SIO struggling to find effectiveness in protecting the party from damage over time effects'. So, if that 500p HOT were instead converted to 5 stacks of 100p shields, it'd still 'help the party against DOTs', but without taking the healer's job away from them as much.

    Then, of course, Souleater/Storm's Path/PLD spells would apply a barrier to the tank instead of a heal. GNB already kinda does this with Brutal Shell (being half healing and half barrier) and it opens up the design option for more interesting interactions between said shield and other actions. For example, GNB's Brutal Shell can be given to an ally by using Heart of Stone/Corundum on that ally
    Or, I dunno it could be heal over time while healers get ... I dunno reactive heals, smart heals, shields, a diverse set of fun to use tools instead of heal or barrier?

    Prayer of Mending is the most fun healing spell I have ever used. This game just doesn't support fun healing. I had a blast healing on bloodmage in Vanguard... that was a disaster of a game... still nothing here comes close.
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  3. #8473
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Or, I dunno it could be heal over time while healers get ... I dunno reactive heals, smart heals, shields, a diverse set of fun to use tools instead of heal or barrier?

    Prayer of Mending is the most fun healing spell I have ever used. This game just doesn't support fun healing. I had a blast healing on bloodmage in Vanguard... that was a disaster of a game... still nothing here comes close.
    yeah, Vanguard was fun, too bad SOE had it.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  4. #8474
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    Just out of curiosity, is the strike still on, or did it end at some point?
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  5. #8475
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    Just out of curiosity, is the strike still on, or did it end at some point?
    I don't even know if it even happened to begin with.
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  6. #8476
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    People striking aren't playing healer in df or pf. We're enjoying the game on other roles or have left.
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  7. #8477
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    People striking aren't playing healer in df or pf. We're enjoying the game on other roles or have left.
    the strike is so wishy washy. "we're striking but not for the first 2 weeks of the expansion"
    "we're striking but only for DF and PF so anyone with a static can still heal"

    I can't help but point out how moronic the healer strike is.
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  8. #8478
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    I don't really know what to say... the og post literally says we're starting on the launch date of DT and striking by not doing healer in DF.

    We're not some paid organization. People show their support in different ways and to different degrees.
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  9. #8479
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    the strike is so wishy washy. "we're striking but not for the first 2 weeks of the expansion"
    "we're striking but only for DF and PF so anyone with a static can still heal"

    I can't help but point out how moronic the healer strike is.
    thank you for coming in to just bump the thread ^^
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  10. #8480
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    Just out of curiosity, is the strike still on, or did it end at some point?
    Could say it is still going by the amount of PF Savage parties still looking for healers.
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