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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Flash
    Spell
    Increases enmity in all nearby enemies.
    Additional Effect: Blind
    Duration: 12s
    Maybe they should bring Flash back as a 0 MP spell and remove Enmity from all damage from Tanks. That'd make them about as complex as Healers.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by raincat View Post
    -snip-
    You can edit your post to go past the character limit.
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    That is very good to know for the future, thank you :O
    I prolly won't edit this one cos I already said most all of what I wanted and I just barely cared enough to get this post out in the first place, but thanks for the heads-up o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Doesn't bother to read discourse -> misrepresents goals -> makes same points that have already been explained -> the cycle continues...
    I suppose the positive side to this is that you can just copy-paste your old answers to save time because you have addressed the same points before many times already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Doesn't bother to read discourse -> misrepresents goals -> makes same points that have already been explained -> the cycle continues...
    FFXIV player brainrot is an epidemic
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Doesn't bother to read discourse -> misrepresents goals -> makes same points that have already been explained -> the cycle continues...
    I get that it is tiring to see the same criticism over and over again, I really do, but can we please have some patience to people that are new to the thread. Yes, the person you're replying to was being rather short, but expecting someone to read the last 400 pages isn't realistic. Tone of criticism is just as important as the criticism itself and it can be hard to support the movement if you don't agree with the behavior you are seeing. I myself am in this camp and that's with me being a very dissatisfied healer main.
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    Last edited by Rozeee; 06-21-2024 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    Doesn't bother to read discourse -> misrepresents goals -> makes same points that have already been explained -> the cycle continues...
    If I've misrepresented the goals of the healer strike, then I'm going to say they were poorly presented by this thread to begin with. I read over the initial post multiple times over the span of a few days to ensure I understood it as well as it could be understood as was written. I'd ask nicely to be filled in on whatever I've seemingly missed despite several re-reads, but these are apparently points that have already been explained, and I'm unlikely to budge on the things I think are hard "no"s anyway. Which is most of it, aside from the homogenization issues and the desire for more damage buttons, so a recap would waste both of our times as opposed to me just willingly wasting my own with making my original post.

    Not that any of it matters since the whole thing will be buried in an hour anyway, which I should have considered in hindsight before even putting my fingers on the keyboard. Oh well. Can't esuna recklessness, can we? :')
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amity_Roji View Post
    Citation needed. Other games do it just fine, so why not this one? This is a causal fallacy.
    There is an amazing example of good healers over in World of Warcraft, where the healers 1) Have more to heal, 2) Have more interesting heals with more interactions between abilites, AND 3) Have more interesting DPS options. And it doesn't affect the floor really because the floor is the ability to do normal mode dungeons and LFR, both of which are supremely easy with the occasional exception, which is usually mechanics related rather then healing related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    There is an amazing example of good healers over in World of Warcraft, where the healers 1) Have more to heal, 2) Have more interesting heals with more interactions between abilites, AND 3) Have more interesting DPS options. And it doesn't affect the floor really because the floor is the ability to do normal mode dungeons and LFR, both of which are supremely easy with the occasional exception, which is usually mechanics related rather then healing related.
    Wait a minute, i have it, just a second

    Looks at his notes

    Ah here it is!

    Go back to WoW then if you are not happy here!



    Did i say the line in a good way? the script was a bit folded, sorry.
    (also was it on the healer bingo, i don't recall)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaixern View Post
    Wait a minute, i have it, just a second

    Looks at his notes

    Ah here it is!

    Go back to WoW then if you are not happy here!



    Did i say the line in a good way? the script was a bit folded, sorry.
    (also was it on the healer bingo, i don't recall)
    I love how "go back to WoW if you don't like it here" is actually a response, like damn would it cost us an arm and a leg if we actually had things that didn't encourage people to swap games and enjoy staying where they are?
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