#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ForsakenRoe]

I was promised that I would 'not even have time to DPS, because Healing requirements will increase so much' going into DT. But when I do my EX roulette (to cap tomes on my onetrick SCH alt), I'm standing in AOEs on purpose in Mistwake (the final pull of the dungeon where they keep using the orange circle to make the Tank move) because they hit for like 40-50k each and I have like 6 different tools to deal with that amount of damage that I can just cycle through. And that alt is in last tier's gear still, just imagine how ignoreable those AOEs will be when we've got 790 gear! Considering how some were cheering the 'spammed raidwides' that the trash used on the final pulls of Tender Valley/Strayborough Deadwalk, either we've fallen a long way, or the 'increase' was never real

Even if everyone who supported the strike were to stop supporting it, the strike still will have served a purpose: Either SE noticed, and makes changes (as the strike asked for), or we have conclusive evidence that SE is perfectly willing to ignore one of the largest threads the EN forums have ever seen (by post count). And that would then prove one of two things: Either SE really does 'only listen to JP', or 'SE is willing to ignore things they don't agree with because they think their vision for the game is the best way forward' (which means they don't listen to EN OR JP). This happens to be the exact mentality that gave us 1.0


Guess we're waiting for 8.0 news, to see if SE actually does read EN forums at all, and/or if there will be any changes

[Connor]

I was promised that I would 'not even have time to DPS, because Healing requirements will increase so much' going into DT

I mean, they were probably right. In like, week 1 ultimate content prog but everyone forgot to save Gil or whatever so they don’t have a lot of crafted gear lol.

Apart from filling 1100+ forum pages, nobody cared about the strike.

Doesn’t the fact a single thread reached 1100 pages alone signify there’s very likely something going on there? Though I guess it could just be one overzealous person repeating themselves over and over (it’s me I’m the problem).

[Miradelle]

I don't understand how healer can be simultaneously so easy, yet so many healers are dragging groups down in 11S, because they can't do damage.

[Alice_Rivers]

I don't understand how healer can be simultaneously so easy, yet so many healers are dragging groups down in 11S, because they can't do damage.

I've heard much of M11S, I'm looking forward to it, just need to get through the hectic mess that is M10S first.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I don't understand how healer can be simultaneously so easy, yet so many healers are dragging groups down in 11S, because they can't do damage.

By having too low potency on all their attacks?

[ForsakenRoe]

By having too low potency on all their attacks?

If anything it's the opposite: Our Filler spell is now such high potency, that dropping casts of it (to heal, to move for the mandated DDR dance, etc) is far more punishing than it was in the past.

Scholar, for example, loses 4x as much damage per dropped GCD compared to ARR (Ruin was 80p, Broil is now 320p)

That's not to mention Dosis on SGE, it's already at 380p, are they gonna make it 400p next expansion?

[CaptainLagbeard]

If anything it's the opposite: Our Filler spell is now such high potency, that dropping casts of it (to heal, to move for the mandated DDR dance, etc) is far more punishing than it was in the past.

Scholar, for example, loses 4x as much damage per dropped GCD compared to ARR (Ruin was 80p, Broil is now 320p)

That's not to mention Dosis on SGE, it's already at 380p, are they gonna make it 400p next expansion?

Yet, despite the supposedly high potency, the healer DPS is still way too low. So no, it shouldn't be 400p next expansion, it should be probably be closer to 500p this expansion.

[Absurdity]

I don't understand how healer can be simultaneously so easy, yet so many healers are dragging groups down in 11S, because they can't do damage.

Pretty easy to explain. Because the healing part of the job is so incredibly easy you will find healers in M11S that really shouldn't be there.

Yet, despite the supposedly high potency, the healer DPS is still way too low. So no, it shouldn't be 400p next expansion, it should be probably be closer to 500p this expansion.

The point seems to have gone right over your head.

Healer's potential damage output is "fine", enrage timers are designed around it. Healers dragging people down in M11S has nothing to do with their potency numbers.

Your main damage source being a single button is the entire issue, because the higher you make the potency of that one button the more dps you lose when you miss a cast of it.
And bad healers miss a whole lot of casts.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Healer's potential damage output is "fine", enrage timers are designed around it. Healers dragging people down in M11S has nothing to do with their potency numbers.

Your main damage source being a single button is the entire issue, because the higher you make the potency of that one button the more dps you lose when you miss a cast of it.
And bad healers miss a whole lot of casts.

Giving them more buttons won't fix the missed casts, making their casts do damage fixes their low damage output.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Giving them more buttons won't fix the missed casts, making their casts do damage fixes their low damage output.

Sure. Now place an average healer on that position. What they end up doing is, they don't cast anything no matter how 'easy' their buttons are to press, because they're shaking or too stressed to press their buttons proper while mechanics are going out. Better healers? Still 1 button spam, but now they're doing way waaaaaaaaaaay more dps.

This is partly why making their filler nukes stronger ends up widening the disparity: devs HAS to balance this around the assumption that healers will output their 'supposedly easy healer dps output'.