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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    If you mean this, then say it on your main. (ᗒᗨᗕ)
    No clue why people want to waste their time making burner accounts to "troll" these forums but to each their own I guess. (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
    Me neither. It seems like a tremendous waste of time. It takes lots of effort for little or no reward.
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    Healer Strike
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    If you mean this, then say it on your main. (ᗒᗨᗕ)
    No clue why people want to waste their time making burner accounts to "troll" these forums but to each their own I guess. (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
    The healer strike accomplished nothing and now they're destroying black mage too.

    I think it's time to give up and go home, or find a better game because you'd think that 1000 pages warrant even a passing mention in an interview. Except, it's radio silence.

    Clearly they don't care so why should you care about this game?

    Realistically only a general strike would even do anything at this point, but the community just fights itself lol. Look at the number of people on The Balance who are laughing at black mage saying they got their comeuppance. And remember how every other role made fun of the healer strike? So even that route is off the table because the community would rather fight itself than fight the devs.

    Have some self respect and stop allowing yourselves to be taken advantage of. Remember to leave a bad review on Steam and Metacritic on your way out. Tell your friends thinking of getting into FF14 to stay far, far away. That's the best anyone can do. There is no future for FF14. (There might be a future if the community bands together in solidarity, but alas..)
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    Last edited by HealerStrike; 03-16-2025 at 03:33 PM.

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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HealerStrike View Post
    The healer strike accomplished nothing and now they're destroying black mage too.
    Ideally, the more jobs SE destroys the identity/playstyle of, the more voices join the protest

    Unfortunately, as you mention, it seems far too many players refuse to acknowledge the hypocrisy of saying 'I hate what they're doing to my class, but also those guys complaining about their class for 5+ years should stop complaining there's no problem there'

    If every Job who's gameplay had been negatively impacted by SE's crusade for 'accessibility' or whatever reasoning they trot out, actually came together and said 'we don't like the changes SE thrust upon our Jobs', who'd be left to whiteknight for the company? Almost every job at this point has had some 'moment' in the past that has negatively impacted their gameplay/identity and alienated old fans.

    At this point, I think it's like... GNB and RDM? Are the only jobs that don't have a sizeable amount of complaints around them (regarding 'I miss old version of Job')? Even worse is things like SGE, where the complaints aren't 'I miss old version', but moreso 'there didn't get to be an old version to miss, because SE shortcutted straight to making it a copy of the bad version of SCH we're now complaining about'
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Even worse is things like SGE, where the complaints aren't 'I miss old version', but moreso 'there didn't get to be an old version to miss, because SE shortcutted straight to making it a copy of the bad version of SCH we're now complaining about'
    I think with sage it's "what we could have had". We were promised a heals-via-DPS-based healer but like you said we got a weaker scholer with tecno aesthetics, so in this case it's the squandered potential that is rubbed into our faces.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    […]Even worse is things like SGE, where the complaints aren't 'I miss old version', but moreso 'there didn't get to be an old version to miss, because SE shortcutted straight to making it a copy of the bad version of SCH we're now complaining about'
    Call me petty if you will, but I think SGE creation is their way to try to prove that SCH did not need Energy Drain at all in their kits but, given that SGE is a carbon copy, they’ve only succeeded to recreate the same issue, hilariously so.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I am so ready for the next liveletter to show a few phantom job combos but none with healer as main job nor phantom job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I am so ready for the next liveletter to show a few phantom job combos but none with healer as main job nor phantom job.
    Still waiting for meteor to play a caster
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I am so ready for the next liveletter to show a few phantom job combos but none with healer as main job nor phantom job.
    Looking at Bozja, the phantom jobs will likely give you one button which replaces the whole healer role. Who needs an actual healer when you have Lost Cure III? The mere existence of the phantom job system already tells us that there will be no healing checks, just more DDR mechanics and then we have the honor of casting raises left and right, a nice distraction from spamming Glare for 3 hours.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Looking at Bozja, the phantom jobs will likely give you one button which replaces the whole healer role. Who needs an actual healer when you have Lost Cure III? The mere existence of the phantom job system already tells us that there will be no healing checks, just more DDR mechanics and then we have the honor of casting raises left and right, a nice distraction from spamming Glare for 3 hours.
    Yea and then some red mage comes in and hogs all the rezzes for themselves to farm a title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    At the very least in Bozja, healers in general and WHM especially are DPS monsters only beaten by few true dpses + actually have some mana concern.

    I wonder if that will happen again in Occult Crescent.
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