#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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but none of us have actually said anything other than mildly commenting on its existence [...]

Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.

Lmao

I loved how you jumped to your own defence and refute points you think we are going to make

You mean like this?

Obligatory "It's Done By Highly Skilled Players in A Very Well Coordinated Party, No One Would Normally Do It, What Does it Matter" comment

[Supersnow845]

Lmao



You mean like this?

You mean the one ironic meme comment and the one over dramatic comment

Perish the thought. How will we ever survive

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You mean the one ironic meme comment and the one over dramatic comment

Perish the thought. How will we ever survive

So discussion and response isn't allowed because it's "overly dramatic" so that doesn't count in your mind as being a point. And the other is a meme, mine is taken at face value and understood differently.

Very sound basis for discussion in a section called 'General Discussion'

[Supersnow845]

So discussion and response isn't allowed because it's "overly dramatic" so that doesn't count in your mind as being a point. And the other is a meme, mine is taken at face value and understood differently.

Very sound basis for discussion in a section called 'General Discussion'

One dramatic comment doesn’t prove your point when the other comment is obviously a meme.

And since when did you want to “discuss” anything. You opened with “yall are just terrible” in your opening comment

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The irony in your point being one of the most valid points despite it being made as a joke.

It amounts to nothing more than a challenge run by people who are practiced and experienced in the game, tandem to calling Dark Souls (or some other intentionally difficult game) too easy because a small sub-set of people beat the game completely naked without dying once when that doesn't change the fact that its merely an outlier and not the normal.

At this point I'm just convinced that people here can't comprehend players who are good at games because half of them haven't done any recent content in difficulty beyond a level-synced Fate on the open world.

[Supersnow845]

The irony in your point being one of the most valid points despite it being made as a joke.

It amounts to nothing more than a challenge run by people who are practiced and experienced in the game, tandem to calling Dark Souls (or some other intentionally difficult game) too easy because a small sub-set of people beat the game completely naked without dying once when that doesn't change the fact that its merely an outlier and not the normal.

At this point I'm just convinced that people here can't comprehend players who are good at games because half of them haven't done any recent content in difficulty beyond a level-synced Fate on the open world.

I loved how you jumped to your own defence and refute points you think we are going to make but none of us have actually said anything other than mildly commenting on its existence

My opinion on this is it doesn’t change the state of healers in the normal game it just shows healing kits and healing design are misaligned with damage dealt. That’s basically the long and short of it, I also said this in ShB so it’s not like it’s entirely based on this (or the TOP) kill

No I can’t do it myself, no PF won’t lock healers out yadda yadda yadda

[Moqi]

It amounts to nothing more than a challenge run by people who are practiced and experienced in the game, tandem to calling Dark Souls (or some other intentionally difficult game) too easy because a small sub-set of people beat the game completely naked without dying once when that doesn't change the fact that its merely an outlier and not the normal.

And yet this kind of challenge always seems to be "no healer" instead of "no DPS" or "no tank" (and yes I am aware that there's been some tank only clears). But let's keep pretending it's not a symptom of how bad healers are when we can have "green tank" and "green dps" but god forbid we get more than one attack and a dot. Why can't we have "red healer" and "blue healer" for the sake of fun challenges by experienced people?

[Rithy255]

And yet this kind of challenge always seems to be "no healer" instead of "no DPS" or "no tank" (and yes I am aware that there's been some tank only clears). But let's keep pretending it's not a symptom of how bad healers are when we can have "green tank" and "green dps" but god forbid we get more than one attack and a dot. Why can't we have "red healer" and "blue healer" for the sake of fun challenges by experienced people?

they've done no tank runs before you can easily find a bunch of them.

guess we should start a tank strike.

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And yet this kind of challenge always seems to be "no healer" instead of "no DPS" or "no tank" (and yes I am aware that there's been some tank only clears). But let's keep pretending it's not a symptom of how bad healers are when we can have "green tank" and "green dps" but god forbid we get more than one attack and a dot. Why can't we have "red healer" and "blue healer" for the sake of fun challenges by experienced people?

I'm not sure how you can say this challenge always seems to be no healer whilst immediately following with the fact that you're aware that no tank runs exist but don't elaborate on why that doesn't contradict your "always" for the healer point.

Not to mention "no DPS" requires replacing four people rather than two and there are clears of some Ultimate's and Savages that are missing one to two DPS, it is just not very common since even for a challenge it doesn't make sense to replace a damage, it's not as impressive as replacing a healer or tank.

Only the forums would complain about how stale and easy healers have become whilst completely ignoring content that is supposed to challenge your ability, I would say "Have you even tried to do a 3-healer comp, to be the one to actually take on that challenge" but it'd be more accurate to ask "Have you even tried an Ultimate?" at this point.

[Moqi]

I'm not sure how you can say this challenge always seems to be no healer whilst immediately following with the fact that you're aware that no tank runs exist but don't elaborate on why that doesn't contradict your "always" for the healer point.

Becuase normally you'd expect for a generalization to have exemptions and still be considered valid but knowing the local fauna I know you'd go "umm akshually" if I didn't say it. It's common sense but well... you can go make friends with that "53% is technically majority" gal on the other thread lol, you'd get along.

it is just not very common since even for a challenge it doesn't make sense to replace a damage, it's not as impressive as replacing a healer or tank.

Not impressive or just plain boring because healer DPS rotation is boring as hell?

Only the forums would complain about how stale and easy healers have become whilst completely ignoring content that is supposed to challenge your ability

Is Ultimate content the only content that is allowed to not be stale? What are you even saying lol. Of course I'm not doing Ultimate, I've got better things to do than sub for 2 fights per expansion.