#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[sharknado]

There is several type of Doom and not all of them can be removed with Esuna.

For exemple, on this dungeon there is two type of Doom : one can be removed with Esuna, the other need the target to be healed to full HP.

That was Scarecrow Chase with the cross AoEs from portals which is removable and has a long timer.

[EponaTBHSMH]

Time to get some cash healers, what do you think of this price, is that adequate or too low

[Ramiee]

Time to get some cash healers, what do you think of this price, is that adequate or too low

What a scam, healers should do it for 5mil minimum.

[AvoSturmfaust]

The biggest issue i see with Healers is literally the fact you cant really do anything much with it if you are real for a second.

You are split between People which like the 1 or 2 DPS Rotation and People which dont like it, so what will you do? Most People which dont like 1 2 will still play Healer, while people which dont want a complex rotation or anything will probably quit, so it will end in a vacuum where even more healer are missing.

So the best way in my opinion would be not to change ALL healer but maybe the half of it, give ast/sch a more complex rotation and keep sage/whm easier

and i talked to a lot of high end healer and tbh none of them actually wanted to have a complex rotation, they are fine with 1-2 so i really dont know how you would change it to make everyone happy

[Somnolence]

and i talked to a lot of high end healer and tbh none of them actually wanted to have a complex rotation, they are fine with 1-2 so i really dont know how you would change it to make everyone happy

As stupid as this sounds, there actually are quite a few healers that like to do min. healing required with oGCDs, then chill with 12 and maybe get funny number on certain website. Making healer changes while still retaining them is a big conundrum.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

My personal anecdote: asking people with “do you want a complex rotation?” usually ends up with a “No” or “Maybe” because they are given no context of how complex said rotation is—or that the moment they read the word ‘rotation’ their mind immediately go straight to 1-2-3 styled rotation.

Give them a little bit of examples, usually their answer becomes something along the line of: “I don’t want meaningless 1 button rotation.” which only reveals that there is some degree of dissatisfaction from today’s buttons.

[lolnotacat]

My personal anecdote: asking people with “do you want a complex rotation?” usually ends up with a “No” or “Maybe” because they are given no context of how complex said rotation is—or that the moment they read the word ‘rotation’ their mind immediately go straight to 1-2-3 styled rotation.

Give them a little bit of examples, usually their answer becomes something along the line of: “I don’t want meaningless 1 button rotation.” which only reveals that there is some degree of dissatisfaction from today’s buttons.

I can really only speak for myself, but the reason I play healer is because I dislike how DPS rotations work in this game. Do the dance, hit the buttons in the same correct order over and over, repeat until the boss is dead. That just doesn't appeal to me, which is why I worry when people say they want healers to have an involved DPS rotation.

When I first started playing in 2.5, I was on the verge of quitting because I hadn't found any DPS job that appealed to me after trying them all. I decided to gave WHM a try and it satisfied what I was looking for. It had an actual toolkit, where the skills had a purpose and could be used in different scenarios. To me, healers should be using their toolkits constantly to mitigate damage, status effects, or shielding and when then they have the opportunity to DPS, it should be considered a bonus. Now a slightly more involved "rotation" would be OK, but once again, we should have better toolkits. For example; maybe if Benison is completely popped, it makes the next Glare an instacast or it gives us another DOT that can be applied in conjunction with Dia, that way we (and the group) are rewarded when we're healing and shielding.

[Tint]

My personal anecdote: asking people with “do you want a complex rotation?” usually ends up with a “No” or “Maybe” because they are given no context of how complex said rotation is—or that the moment they read the word ‘rotation’ their mind immediately go straight to 1-2-3 styled rotation.

Give them a little bit of examples, usually their answer becomes something along the line of: “I don’t want meaningless 1 button rotation.” which only reveals that there is some degree of dissatisfaction from today’s buttons.

RDMs basic spells would be really cool to have on a healer.

Maybe add the 3 elements for WHM back and a give him an elemental gauge. Light spells can fill all 3 elements. I though for a while now that Assize would be the perfect skill to deplete such an elemental gauge and add various effects to the party and the enemies regarding on which elements you filled up.

Stone could increase the damage of Assize and give the party a shield. Water increases the healing and the MP recovered. Wind adds a DoT on the enemy... well, it would need some good ideas I think. And the gauge has to cap somewhere so you are actually incentivized to use different spells.

[Somnolence]

RDMs basic spells would be really cool to have on a healer.

Maybe add the 3 elements for WHM back and a give him an elemental gauge. Light spells can fill all 3 elements. I though for a while now that Assize would be the perfect skill to deplete such an elemental gauge and add various effects to the party and the enemies regarding on which elements you filled up.

Stone could increase the damage of Assize and give the party a shield. Water increases the healing and the MP recovered. Wind adds a DoT on the enemy... well, it would need some good ideas I think. And the gauge has to cap somewhere so you are actually incentivized to use different spells.

This is a bit too complicated for a healer. Even as simple as glare having chance to proc another skill and a gauge you can spend on another (that holy beam of Alexander would be cool) would be enough.

[Supersnow845]

To me

-DNC level 50 rotation without standard step
-RDM level 50 rotation
-PCT level 60 rotation
-BLM level 50 rotation without hard timers on astral fire
-BRD level 50 rotation

Are all examples of jobs that I would be fine with having as a healer rotation