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  1. #8031
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    You're the peloton bot just like I'm the heal bot
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  2. #8032
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    Szylver's Avatar
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    Lalita Lolita
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    over 800 pages and SE still won't talk about this.

    Edit: OMG my 123th post!
    There is no point for them to talk about this. Japan players are happy with the simple healer rotation and they don't care if the hardest content can be done without healers, they see it as a challenge. JP and NA/EU have diferent thoughts about this and in this case JP won :/
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  3. #8033
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Szylver View Post
    There is no point for them to talk about this. Japan players are happy with the simple healer rotation and they don't care if the hardest content can be done without healers, they see it as a challenge. JP and NA/EU have diferent thoughts about this and in this case JP won :/
    That’s honestly another reason to complain, this games blatant favouritism of JP despite them being a vast minority within the game (last census put them at barely 26% of the playerbase)

    It’s hard to get a perfect read of the EN playerbase on healers but on something like VPR where it was clearly JP wants change EN doesn’t EN should have won out by nature of being 75% of the total playerbase
    (15)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #8034
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s hard to get a perfect read of the EN playerbase on healers but on something like VPR where it was clearly JP wants change EN doesn’t EN should have won out by nature of being 75% of the total playerbase
    Maybe the JP players are whaling super hard on Mogstation and that’s why SE goes straight to addressing their feedback and not ours.

    Quick everyone, buy a [local currency sign]39.99 Mount and get one whole feedback for free

    ok I typed it can you put the gun down now please
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  5. #8035
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Phantom
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    Gunbreaker Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Maybe the JP players are whaling super hard on Mogstation and that’s why SE goes straight to addressing their feedback and not ours.

    Quick everyone, buy a [local currency sign]39.99 Mount and get one whole feedback for free

    ok I typed it can you put the gun down now please
    You know, for a joke, it might not be so far from the truth.
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  6. #8036
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Szylver View Post
    There is no point for them to talk about this. Japan players are happy with the simple healer rotation and they don't care if the hardest content can be done without healers, they see it as a challenge. JP and NA/EU have diferent thoughts about this and in this case JP won :/
    I don't think it helps anyone to shift the blame onto the entire JP playerbase, some of them clearly do not like current healer design either.

    There's also the case of Kaiten where the majority of EN and JP were united in wanting it back and SE told the collective playerbase to go pound sand.

    They very likely only look at internal metrics and decide whether or not it's worth the time and money to address the problems.
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  7. #8037
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    Szylver's Avatar
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    Lalita Lolita
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I don't think it helps anyone to shift the blame onto the entire JP playerbase, some of them clearly do not like current healer design either.

    There's also the case of Kaiten where the majority of EN and JP were united in wanting it back and SE told the collective playerbase to go pound sand.

    They very likely only look at internal metrics and decide whether or not it's worth the time and money to address the problems.
    I'm not blaming JP players. Is not a bad thing to like the healers design. I don't so i switch to tank.
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  8. #8038
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    Rehayem's Avatar
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    That’s honestly another reason to complain, this games blatant favouritism of JP despite them being a vast minority within the game (last census put them at barely 26% of the playerbase)

    It’s hard to get a perfect read of the EN playerbase on healers but on something like VPR where it was clearly JP wants change EN doesn’t EN should have won out by nature of being 75% of the total playerbase
    This is nothing new. If you played any other MMORPG, which most probably hails from Korea, the devs will favor feedback and inputs from their own people, the Korean playerbase, even if EN is the majority and KR the minority in players.

    Square Enix is no different, they will only listen to JP playerbase and "pretend" to listen to EN but will do nothing actually. Companies like Blizzard, ZeniMax (ESO) and ArenaNET (GW2) are Western companies which means they'll listen to feedback from EN community most.
    (4)

  9. #8039
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    That’s honestly another reason to complain, this games blatant favouritism of JP despite them being a vast minority within the game (last census put them at barely 26% of the playerbase)

    It’s hard to get a perfect read of the EN playerbase on healers but on something like VPR where it was clearly JP wants change EN doesn’t EN should have won out by nature of being 75% of the total playerbase
    Uh bad argument, very bad. You know what is also 25% of the playerbase by design? Healers. Why should anyone cater to them when they are a vast minority of the playerbase? DPS players make up 50%, that is were the money lies.
    (1)
    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

  10. #8040
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Uh bad argument, very bad. You know what is also 25% of the playerbase by design? Healers. Why should anyone cater to them when they are a vast minority of the playerbase? DPS players make up 50%, that is were the money lies.
    The reason why healers are a vast minority is because they're boring to play.
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