#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Evergrey]

The beige nothingness of the modern jobs doesn’t change clear hierarchies in the support roles anyway

SCH is the dominant job for top end progression and AST is the dominant job on damage, WHM is in the toilet and SGE hangs on by virtue of not being WHM. Same as tanks, GNB dominates on damage, WAR and PLD on survivability, DRK dominates at being garbage.

Making every job the same still isn’t helping them balance them properly and if the DPS can survive actually having differences in their complexity the supports should be able to as well

DPS have more or less always in most games had the biggest freedom since they are more straight forward when it comes to what they do, which is dealing damage.
Healers on the other hand in other, especially in other games where there can be healers who have more utilities like buffs, debuffs, single target heals, group heals can excel over other healers depending on what might be more saught after for certain encounters.
I can almost certainly expect that if FFXIV had more of a difference between jobs we would see Meta setups when it comes to group compositions.
DRK was fairly excluded in a lot of endgame content during times when DRK was considered far inferior compared to other tanks, as an example.
And if I'm not remembering things wrong, when there was a clearer definition between pure & shield healers groups wanted 1 of each in their composition, not 2 of the same. Meaning that there was those that was shown the door if they already have one of them in their group already.
And that a DPS can survive having different complexity. I see how well that went for the VPR.

Ofc, these are simply my own opinions of the current state and where it feels like it's heading.

[Aravell]

I think it's so that for content all options are viable.

The thing with this is that every job has always been viable, even when they messed up balance so hard in EW that PLD and WAR were 10%+ behind DRK, those 2 jobs were still viable if the other players could make up the difference.

What every job isn't (and will never be) is meta, but that's a whole other can of worms. It's impossible to kill a player-created meta, even if there's 2 jobs that do 9000 dps and 9001 dps respectively, the 9001 dps job will be meta.

They need to go back to the old design of jobs that are unique and viable rather than wasting time and energy trying to kill a player-created meta, because they won't win unless they make every job a carbon copy of each other with only visual differences.

[Tigore]

Most of the time, I am not sweating with the cooldowns I listed. I go back to spamming 1 AOE button or 1 single target button after those healing cooldowns are laid down. About the only time I was actually sweating with WHM was the lvl 93 trial a few weeks ago. To be fair, almost nobody knew the mechs, so I even needed to use Medica 2 / 3 in addition to Asylum and Temperance. Regens were being thrown out to more than just the tanks too. This goes back to the other healers discussing how they sometimes want the others to make a few non-lethal mistakes so they actually sweat on using the healing buttons like I described for the 93 trial.

Usually, I am seeing requests to add a couple more damage buttons for the healers so their fillers have some more variety. Since we do understand that the casual content realistically needs to stay easy enough on the healing checks to encourage players of different skill levels to try it out. DPS enrage checks are rarely an issue for normal difficulty content, so the healers could still stick with the 1 - 2 button DPS filler spam and still clear. Obviously we are not talking about the full caliber of DPS rotations, but a small aspect could be borrowed. Like for instance, something like the GNB's Gnashing combo cooldown granted to the PLD spell sword combo with just the GCD part. Another could borrow from BLM with the transitioning between fire and ice modes with different names. Maybe the "ice mode" could debuff the enemy with the "fire mode" being the standard filler nukes. I think Roe also suggested the DoT timer to be cut in half for WHM's Dia so it needs to be pressed twice as much. It's an instant cast, so it shouldn't hurt too much to allow for moving out of a mech while using it. Just some ideas to think about even though neither of these would be guaranteed.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Krasis+Haima is already a single target tank LB equivalent and it's available at least 1 from 2 wall pulls. Throw a mandatory Kerachole, then you're set for the rest of the pull with Kardia doing the rest of your work---or don't, you probably don't need that 'regen' at all lol.

[EusisLandale]

Krasis+Haima is already a single target tank LB equivalent and it's available at least 1 from 2 wall pulls. Throw a mandatory Kerachole, then you're set for the rest of the pull with Kardia doing the rest of your work---or don't, you probably don't need that 'regen' at all lol.

Krasis doesn't really do anything for Haima, unless the latter falls off while still boosted.

Better to just use it prepull fishing for a good Eukrasian Diagnosis crit, since that'll cover roughly 50% of a tank's HP if you land it.

[Supersnow845]

Krasis doesn't really do anything for Haima, unless the latter falls off while still boosted.

Better to just use it prepull fishing for a good Eukrasian Diagnosis crit, since that'll cover roughly 50% of a tank's HP if you land it.

It buffs all 5 shields by 20%, that’s an extra 300 potency, that’s worth more than buffing even a crit e diagnosis with krasis because all 5 shields will be buffed by krasis

[WaxSw]

Krasis doesn't really do anything for Haima, unless the latter falls off while still boosted.

Better to just use it prepull fishing for a good Eukrasian Diagnosis crit, since that'll cover roughly 50% of a tank's HP if you land it.

Krasis DOES affect Haima, the potency of each layer is small so its hard to see but the total gain is higher:



Also for the prepull don't just throw an Eukrasian Diagnosis, Sage is not Sch, you can't deploy it and auto attack damage is not high enough to deserve that. Use Eukrasian Prognosis to shield for the raidwide that will come in 99% of the fights instead and use Krasis for when the tank really needs it to avoid a GCD heal

[EusisLandale]

Also for the prepull don't just throw an Eukrasian Diagnosis, Sage is not Sch, you can't deploy it and auto attack damage is not high enough to deserve that. Use Eukrasian Prognosis to shield for the raidwide that will come in 99% of the fights instead and use Krasis for when the tank really needs it to avoid a GCD heal

A little reminder on what started this. Talk of trash.

plus most tanks are still pulling everything and that's generally at least a solid minute of spiking damage before enough adds die for you to relax.

Before reaching trash: Krasis + Eukrasian Diagnosis until crit, pull, or 4th cast
On pull: Toxikon once
Reaching pack 1: Eukrasian Dyskrasia, then Dyskrasia spam
Stopping at pack 2: Panhaima/Haima + Kerachole, E. Dyskrasia again, Dyskrasia until party buffs go out if there are any otherwise skip to next step, full Toxikon, Phlegma, & Psyche dump, Physis+Taurochole once Kerachole wears off, Pneuma, Dyskrasia spam, Kerachole again once Taurochole falls off

This is every single trash pull this expansion, with the exception of maybe the Calcabrina miniboss if the group's DPS has been low to mid, in which case Panhaima just gets held until the double Slapstick spam. Never mind relaxing, I could theoretically find a way to automate this and nobody would know the difference.

You're not going to need to shield against a raidwide on trash. I'm quite aware the procedure is different for the bosses themselves.

[BunnyQueen]

Healers get nothing from SE. SE's opinion of healers is to just not exist.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Krasis doesn't really do anything for Haima, unless the latter falls off while still boosted.
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Better to just use it prepull fishing for a good Eukrasian Diagnosis crit, since that'll cover roughly 50% of a tank's HP if you land it.

For posterity, I drew a line and made sure both pics are pixel perfect aligned.



Additionally, like much other abilities, the value do snapshots at the time of appliance. So even if your Krasis is already gone, so long the Haima was applied while it was active, the expiration heal will also get boosted later on: